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    Quote Originally Posted by jaegerhund View Post
    Maybe statements like : "and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth" cause some confusion when talking about American government. But I believe the Founding Fatheres when looking upon the Greeks /Romans for infuence wanted to stray away from pure forms of democracy ---so in a sense didn't believe in true government by the people but by elected representatives. I think it's funny how people come out with polls showing the unpopularity of the President,etc and say government policies should change accordingly ---- I think this is what the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid ----wait until the next election and vote in a new bunch but meanwhile , hands off to the masses. I think they got it right.


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    Sorry, those lines are from Nov 19, 1863 and were spoken by Abe Lincoln.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickw View Post
    Sorry, those lines are from Nov 19, 1863 and were spoken by Abe Lincoln.

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    Yeah --- I know where the statement came from, thank you --- but it is still used by some when promoting the general populations role in government --- you're just reinforcing what I was trying to say which is that as our country evolves , the original intentions of the founding fathers gets obscured.

    The statement I quoted as well as others might often be associated with the founding fathers, the constitution,etc as some might believe the statement "seperation of church and state" is explicitly in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. Again, maybe some statements like : "and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not parish from the earth" might cause some confusion when talking about American government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaegerhund View Post
    Yeah --- I know where the statement came from, thank you --- but it is still used by some when promoting the general populations role in government --- you're just reinforcing what I was trying to say which is that as our country evolves , the original intentions of the founding fathers gets obscured.
    The statement I quoted as well as others might often be associated with the founding fathers, the constitution,etc as some might believe the statement "seperation of church and state" is explicitly in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. Again, maybe some statements like : "and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not parish from the earth" might cause some confusion when talking about American government.

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    Agreed and done so intentionally. When a Supreme Court Justice quotes a European Court, he should be asked to resign.

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