Thread: President of the US of A

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Don't laugh but the count right now is 282 for Trump and 279 for Cruz wooooooohooooooo

So your vote almost mattered - a rare thing

"A dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the forbidden appearance of zeal for the firmness and efficiency of government. History will teach us that the former has been found a much more certain road to the introduction of despotism than the latter, and that of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people; commencing demagogues, and ending tyrants."

Hamilton, Federalist #1

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."

Possibly A. Lincoln

"There's a sucker born every minute"

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Originally Posted by honedright

I suppose the Federal gov gradually got so big because someone(s) thought it (Program, agency, etc.) was a good idea at the time, and possibly solved an immediate problem. But as often happens, people tend to be short sighted, especially during a crisis, and forget to consider long term consequences of their quick fixes.

“nothing is more common than for a free people, in times of heat and violence, to gratify momentary passions, by letting into the government, principles and precedents which afterwards prove fatal to themselves.”

Phocion (Alexander Hamilton) 1784

It's too bad all the people who know how to run the country are busy cutting hair and driving taxi's-George Burns (comedian)

Maybe he knew a lot more than we do??
~Richard

Originally Posted by Geezer

Maybe he knew a lot more than we do??
~Richard

Funny. I remember an interview with George Burns where he was asked what his doctor thought about his drinking and smoking cigars. "What does my doctor think? He does't care, he's dead!"

Originally Posted by honedright

“nothing is more common than for a free people, in times of heat and violence, to gratify momentary passions, by letting into the government, principles and precedents which afterwards prove fatal to themselves.”

Phocion (Alexander Hamilton) 1784

This not only applies to size of govt of course but to many other things. Important things like freedom of speech and civil liberties. Here's a quote comparison I find very interesting indeed. The attribution to Goebbels only refers to the fact he said it - it's unclear whether he came up with it in the first place (in fact, he probably didn't):

If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place...

Eric Schmidt, Current Executive Chairman of Google's parent company, advisor to the Google founders Page and Brin, and former CEO of Google (his role at the time of this quote).

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda (Information)

Like I said, I find the similarities between both the quotes and the positions held by the people who said them, both interesting and disturbing.

James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Like I said, I find the similarities between both the quotes and the positions held by the people who said them, both interesting and disturbing.

I think it's a case of serving one's interest. I like Upton Sinclair's quote along these lines

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

I wish there were some good quotes about how to control people through fear and information overload.....

James.

While people debate and discuss the troops march through the gates .... it's been done.

Anyway, I haven't been paying a great deal of attention to the news lately, but from what I can garner it sounds like Trump on the Republican side and Clinton on the Democrat side are pulling away from their respective rivals, is that right?

So if we assume they will be the candidates for the Presidency, what's going to happen? Will the US elect its first female President? Or will Trump come up .... er ... trumps?

James.