Thread: Apple's stand against the Feds

And you trust everything Washington has to say

Lastly, how am I mistaken? Big brother wanting to snoop is no new news, they are just throwing a temper tantrum because there is something out there they can't snoop

Originally Posted by shooter74743

And you trust everything Washington has to say

Lastly, how am I mistaken? Big brother wanting to snoop is no new news, they are just throwing a temper tantrum because there is something out there they can't snoop

Hmmm. I think one of us is misunderstanding the other. I was saying that this statement of yours was incorrect:

Originally Posted by shooter74743

This "big brother" wanting access to snoop all phones is bull.

If you read the excerpt I posted, it is readily apparent that the current actions of the FBI are nothing more than a smokescreen for their true motive.

Personally, I would like to see the "Erase after ten attempts" code burned into the phone so that there is absolutely no way that the encryption can be broken, and there is no point in the government trying to force Apple (or any manufacturer) to defeat the protections of the data.

I wouldn't trust either of them farther than I could throw them...

I love my country .. I hate my government!

Update -

Has anyone else seen the report that the phone was encoded remotely by the County AFTER the shootout ???? and this is why the FBI cannot crack it ???
If that is true it changes the entire perspective..

Originally Posted by gugi

In the meanwhile employers who want to maintain access to the information on the work phones they provide to employees shouldn't be providing phones with such strong security. It's not like nobody knew about this - Apple publicized it quite a bit and now it's a top headline.

Again, place the accountability where it belongs and that's not with Apple, but with congress. Scapegoating Apple is plain wrong.

I agree I still don't see why Apple is involved at all except for being "Asked" for help, I just can't make that logic work in my brain


By the way here is the actual Docket


https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...sst-iPhone.txt

It was not encoded remotely. Somebody at the IT department of the employer requested a reset of the iCloud password (iCloud is an online storage Apple provides for backing data).

If they hadn't done that the feds could've been able to make the phone backup its data online (that was turned off by Farook) and then obtain the data from that backup.

The password reset simply closed a potential path to obtaining the data without breaking the phone encryption.

So was that stupidity or intentional ???

They "requested" it ?? why would they do that ???

From San Bernardino Shooter's iCloud Password Changed While iPhone was in Government Possession - ABC News

The Justice Department acknowledged in its court filing that the password of Syed Farook's iCloud account had been reset. The filing states, "the owner [San Bernardino County Department of Public Health], in an attempt to gain access to some information in the hours after the attack, was able to reset the password remotely, but that had the effect of eliminating the possibility of an auto-backup."

And the county says FBI asked them to do it:


Sounds like somebody didn't quite understand what they're doing - it happens most of the time.

I thought this was a very good article and maybe some would enjoy the read. Don't Crack the iPhone: Apple Is Not the FBI's Tech Support | Max Eddy | PCMag.com

As long as terrorists can walk across the border into this country I say no more talk about what they need to stop terrorism. They are just using that as an excuse to get more toys/power. Use the toys you got and shut up.

It seems law makers are no longer considering the requirement for tech companies to add back doors to their products. This is a wise decision. If not, we might as well go back to dial up and drive thru banking :<0)

Update : Feds get help from a 3rd party! Interesting read. Have heard some rumors of who it may have been but nothing confirmed.

Justice Department cracks iPhone; withdraws legal action

Seems to me USA feds have finally stopped grumbling and done their homework. Our feds in Brazil are pretty busy currently, trying to put ALL our damn politicians behind bars.