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    Quote Originally Posted by UKRob View Post

    I doubt very much that President Obama would try and sell a similar arrangement to the US electorate.
    Not yet. Baby steps.
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    Personally I would NOT like to see a Pan-American union for similar reasons as UKRob has said about the EU. Free Trade/NAFTA has been bad enough from where I sit never mind the global economy.

    It is not surprising that after the vote people wonder what is next. You are in uncharted territory as this has never been done before. This will set a precedence for the future so what the final up shot is will be a coin toss. Fasten your seat belt, the roller coaster ride has just started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKRob View Post
    This is what it is actually like in the EU - low price eastern European workers can flock to the wealthier countries claim welfare including for children still living in their home country.
    That is an excellent point. Spain should deport the roughly 400,000 Britons living in Spain full time, exploiting Spain's health service. Make Costa del Sol liveable again!

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    Health tourists have cost UK tax payers roughly 6 billion in the last 8 years.
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    Economic constructs like the EU encompass countries of greatly differing standards of living. It may be good for business/trade but it plays havoc with countries that had a high standard of living for the middle class worker. It is a micro version of the "Global Economy" we are now in. That creates a lot of dissatisfaction in a large group of people.

    At one time if a country's economy was doing OK it also meant that the middle class was doing alright too. That is no longer the case. I wonder how that happened?

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    I would have thought that such an important decision would have had to have had a minimum of a 75% agreement as opposed to the 50.01%.

    I'm glad my home city voted to remain. The EU have done far more for Liverpool than successive Tory governments have in the last 40 years.
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    Having been born in Wales and spending much of my first five years there, I support the Nationalist movement. That said, I have my own thoughts on the vote but will remain silent for those with more at stake to voice their opinion, but, it's interesting to read the responses.

    From my end, O'Bama, in spite of his Irish heritage, should keep his nose out of it. He's got enough troubles not leading his own country!

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    I well remember the first time we entered the European union under Edward Heath's tory Government, at the time the only talk was about a huge European free trade market which we all wanted, what they didn't say that you slowly but surely take total control of your country with their stupid liberal PC human rights we in the UK don't need human rights we are more than civilized to make our own judgments and laws without some brussels-bureaucrats telling us what we can or cannot do.
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    Let me just add that I support self determination everywhere!!

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    Yes, Merkel managed to destroy Europe without firing a shot - 3 times in one century for Germany....sheesh.

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