Thread: Scooter Libby's Sentence Commuted

Originally Posted by xman

There is nothing wrong with gay people.

A little touchy, are we?

Originally Posted by Jonedangerousli

GWB will pardon Libby as soon as his appeals are exhausted. As he should.

well, you have one sentence right! 1 for 2 aint bad.

i knew from the outset that libby wouldnt get the chance to see the view from the other side. victor rita must be fuming right now, i bet he had libbys pillow fluffed et al. the supreme court knows as much even with the loaded panel.


all in all i really do see keess point- it will save us tax payers a bunch of money!

cheers-
ryan

btw, jonny d your humor always makes me chuckle.

Originally Posted by xman

There is nothing wrong with gay people.

Except that, well......they're GAY!!!

(...makes my SKIN crawl...)

-whatever

-Lou

Originally Posted by scarface

Except that, well......they're GAY!!!

(...makes my SKIN crawl...)

-whatever

-Lou

Originally Posted by xman

There is nothing wrong with gay people.

Yes, a bit TOO touchy perhaps....

I wonder if "Methinks thou doth protest too much" would be applicable here?
X? I must admit that I'm not much on Shakespeare so perhaps you could give a judgment on this one?


Now where were we??
Ah yes, something wrong with being gay......
I never said there was.
I was simply using a common prank played by children as an example of how questions could be worded in a confusing manner.

Of course this has been a prime example of how if you don't agree with the left, well you must be a homophobe, bigot, sexist, or ignorant bastard du jour.
Apparently it is a condemnation of homosexuality to use the word gay.
Maybe if I attach the gayest looking smile

There.

Although it had nothing to do with my original post, since it has been brought up, I will say that I do find "flamers" distasteful in much the same way that I feel about spoiled children, talking in a restaurant on a cell phone and fat people wearing spandex.
I happen to have a (fairly) good friend who is a "SAG" and guess who else finds "flamers" distasteful??
BTW, he has some great gay jokes.

Two gay guys are having sex and they both die at exactly the same time.

Who gets to heaven first?

The guy on the bottom. Why? His shit was already packed !!

Straight (can I say that without offending heterosexuals?)
from the horses ( oh god now I'm an animal hater !)
(or was I implying that gays are subhuman?)

mouth.

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Of course one can say "gay", it's not offensive. The offense is in your mind because you believe it is wrong to be gay regardless of the fact that there have been healthy productive gay members of human civilisation throughout history and even prehistory. Don't mistake your chauvinism for what it is, otherwise you will never be able to face it down. By trying to trick a child into saying he's gay, you've assumed that it is wrong to be gay and you reinforce in the children you interact with in this way, your bigotry.

The Shakespeare quote you are reaching for (ouch) is from Hamlet. Gertrude, Hamlet's mother says of the Player Queen in the play she (Gertrude) is watching, that she (the Player Queen) is overtly declaring her undying love for her, Player King husband. It's ironic, because one could easily say of Gertrude herself that "The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

Unironically, I must admit that I do protest too much, because I despise bigotry in all its forms whether it be racial, sexual, sexually oriented or any otherwise reprehensibly distasteful display, and I tend to speak out against it with a bit too knee jerk a reaction.

Reminds me of a story:
I was serving two lunches as week in a busy and terribly cool restaurant in Toronto where the head cook was an ignorant ass, and that's putting it nicely. This guy would take a daily opportunity to call me 'faggot'. It didn't matter that I'm not gay, it was designed to be hurtful and it was delivered because it helped cover his feelings of insecurity which I can only imagine must have been rather intense.

One day as we were setting up the restaurant for the oncoming crowd, Chef came up to me and asked, "If you woke up and found a condom hanging out of your ass would you take it out or leave it in?" You can easily see how Chef is employing the same kind of confirmation bias GW displays. As he was half through laying his trap, I couldn't believe I was hearing this from him. We were not, after all, eight year olds anymore and I was a little shocked that he would stoop to such a level. He'd also had many months of experience debating with me and, quite frankly, he should have known better than to stick his neck out that far. In my flabbergasted state, I honestly don't know how I came up with my response, but I was happy to diffuse such a fallacy. Without skipping a beat, I looked him dead in the eye and asked back, "Why, what did you do?". It took him a few seconds to realise he'd been bested, but he sulked away once he had.

X

Originally Posted by xman

Of course one can say "gay", it's not offensive. The offense is in your mind because you believe it is wrong to be gay regardless of the fact that there have been healthy productive gay members of human civilisation throughout history and even prehistory. Don't mistake your chauvinism for what it is, otherwise you will never be able to face it down. By trying to trick a child into saying he's gay, you've assumed that it is wrong to be gay and you reinforce in the children you interact with in this way, your bigotry.

The Shakespeare quote you are reaching for (ouch) is from Hamlet. Gertrude, Hamlet's mother says of the Player Queen in the play she (Gertrude) is watching, that she (the Player Queen) is overtly declaring her undying love for her, Player King husband. It's ironic, because one could easily say of Gertrude herself that "The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

Unironically, I must admit that I do protest too much, because I despise bigotry in all its forms whether it be racial, sexual, sexually oriented or any otherwise reprehensibly distasteful display, and I tend to speak out against it with a bit too knee jerk a reaction.

Reminds me of a story:
I was serving two lunches as week in a busy and terribly cool restaurant in Toronto where the head cook was an ignorant ass, and that's putting it nicely. This guy would take a daily opportunity to call me 'faggot'. It didn't matter that I'm not gay, it was designed to be hurtful and it was delivered because it helped cover his feelings of insecurity which I can only imagine must have been rather intense.

One day as we were setting up the restaurant for the oncoming crowd, Chef came up to me and asked, "If you woke up and found a condom hanging out of your ass would you take it out or leave it in?" You can easily see how Chef is employing the same kind of confirmation bias GW displays. As he was half through laying his trap, I couldn't believe I was hearing this from him. We were not, after all, eight year olds anymore and I was a little shocked that he would stoop to such a level. He'd also had many months of experience debating with me and, quite frankly, he should have known better than to stick his neck out that far. In my flabbergasted state, I honestly don't know how I came up with my response, but I was happy to diffuse such a fallacy. Without skipping a beat, I looked him dead in the eye and asked back, "Why, what did you do?". It took him a few seconds to realise he'd been bested, but he sulked away once he had.

X

I never heard GW say there was anything wrong with being Homosexual.
I think you have accidently exposed your own form of bigotry!

Originally Posted by JMS

I never heard GW say there was anything wrong with being Homosexual.
I think you have accidently exposed your own form of bigotry!

Asking kids if their mother knows they're gay is assumptive that homosexuality is undesirable.

Originally Posted by xman

Asking kids if their mother knows they're gay is assumptive that homosexuality is undesirable.

That is a school yard joke he was using to make a point!
How intolerant can you be?

You guys are getting

So, before this turns into a thread we wish it hadn't, can you please get back on-topic?... ie, Scooter Libby. Please.