Thread: Societal Norms Discussion

Originally Posted by Jonedangerousli

The challenge there is to define what is "good" and "right".

Good and right is written in the hearts of each of us! It is our challenge to listen to our hearts and not our opinions!

Originally Posted by JMS

Good and right is written in the hearts of each of us! It is our challenge to listen to our hearts and not our opinions!

Or for that matter, our wonderfully worded justifications and arguments!

Originally Posted by JMS
Good and right is written in the hearts of each of us! It is our challenge to listen to our hearts and not our opinions!

What does "It is our challenge to listen to our hearts and not our opinions!" mean? I'm not being trite, I really don't understand the statement.

Originally Posted by JMS

Or for that matter, our wonderfully worded justifications and arguments!

Currently in the world there is a group that believe that it is "good and right" to strap explosives to their bodies and walk into a crowded place to destroy other people. I sincerely hope that they are listening to their hearts if they are willing to sacrifice themselves for what they believe.

So, whose definition of "good and right" do we use?

Originally Posted by JMS

That one goes without question. It wasn't necessary for him to bring it up!

then why not outlaw fastfood which is most certainly harmful to your helth? Have you ever seen "supersize me"?

edit: it did not include the quote that crack should be outlawed because it is bad for your health.

My point was that if it is our body, and we have an unconditional right to do with our body what we will, when why can the government regulate those actions which only affect our body, and no one else?

Jonedangerousli, if you are interested I will PM you but it will probably be a lengthy discussion between you and me!
mhailey, I don't understand your question. I was only defending your line of reasoning. I do not argue for arguments sake! Is this what you are doing, or did we misunderstand each other?

Originally Posted by JMS

Good and right is written in the hearts of each of us! It is our challenge to listen to our hearts and not our opinions!

Wrong again. Your heart is your opinion. An unimpassioned look at the facts will betray what is right and wrong.

Originally Posted by mhailey

then why not outlaw fastfood which is most certainly harmful to your helth? Have you ever seen "supersize me"?

edit: it did not include the quote that crack should be outlawed because it is bad for your health.

My point was that if it is our body, and we have an unconditional right to do with our body what we will, when why can the government regulate those actions which only affect our body, and no one else?

No such thing. Cook up a batch of crystal meth poison and you're trying to profit of the destruction of others. There is nothing good to be said for it. Since it's addictive, people can't be trusted to make the correct decision once they're hooked. At least with junk food there are benefits like calories.

Why do I have to do all the thinking for you?

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Originally Posted by JMS

Jonedangerousli, if you are interested I will PM you but it will probably be a lengthy discussion between you and me!
mhailey, I don't understand your question. I was only defending your line of reasoning. I do not argue for arguments sake! Is this what you are doing, or did we misunderstand each other?

I reread your post mhailey and see there was a misunderstanding on my part. I still agree with your line of thinking though!

JMS,

did the edit of my prior post clarify my position?

To all, I don't want to argue. no one ever wins an argument. I like the educated exchange of ideas, and found this thread to be quite engaging, with some well reasoned positions from various people. I will stop.

Originally Posted by xman

Wrong again. Your heart is your opinion. An unimpassioned look at the facts will betray what is right and wrong.




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Maybe I should have said soul! Extreme emotion is the enemy of good sense! by using the word heart I did not mean to refer to your emotional side.

Originally Posted by xman

Why do I have to do all the thinking for you?
X

Wow. okay, I'm done.