Thread: Societal Norms Discussion

I'm going to be out of town at an offsite meeting through the first of the week. I'll have limited availability but will try to check in as often as possible.

Thank you all for your participation in this discussion. I always learn a lot from spirited discussons.

Originally Posted by xman

Your heart is your opinion. An unimpassioned look at the facts will betray what is right and wrong.
X

Ha ha! Spoken like a true Shakespearian.

Tell me where is fancy bred
In the heart or in the head?

It's been a long time, so forgive me for completely forgetting which play (or it might even have been one of his sonnets!).

Originally Posted by Jonedangerousli

.... I always learn a lot from spirited discussons.

"Tae while awa the lonely hoors, I drink three boatles o' whisky efter which I invariably hae a visitation frae a muse."

Originally Posted by xman

Wrong again. Your heart is your opinion. An unimpassioned look at the facts will betray what is right and wrong.


No such thing. Cook up a batch of crystal meth poison and you're trying to profit of the destruction of others. There is nothing good to be said for it. Since it's addictive, people can't be trusted to make the correct decision once they're hooked. At least with junk food there are benefits like calories.

Why do I have to do all the thinking for you?

X

you are wrong in assuming that everyone who tries silly things becomes addicted to them. It is repeated use for escapism that first takes you to a habit and them more prolonged use leads to addiction. one can try things and not have diminished capacity to make decisions.

i'm so glad that you do no thinking for me.

The Grape that can with Logic absolute
The Two-and-Seventy jarring Sects confute:
The subtle Alchemist that in a Trice
Life's leaden Metal into Gold transmute.
--Edward FitzGerald, "The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam"

Originally Posted by majurey

Ha ha! Spoken like a true Shakespearian.

Tell me where is fancy bred
In the heart or in the head?

It's been a long time, so forgive me for completely forgetting which play (or it might even have been one of his sonnets!).

The Merchant of Venice

Ahh, thanks for the reminder. I particularly enjoyed Merchant of Venice. Many years later I married my Jewish wife and started to see the play in a slightly different light.

Looks like the great bard himself was sometimes want to let slip (the dogs of) his own prejudices! But I guess living a few hundred years ago it's understandable!

Originally Posted by syslight

you are wrong in assuming that everyone who tries silly things becomes addicted to them. It is repeated use for escapism that first takes you to a habit and them more prolonged use leads to addiction. one can try things and not have diminished capacity to make decisions.

i'm so glad that you do no thinking for me.

The Grape that can with Logic absolute
The Two-and-Seventy jarring Sects confute:
The subtle Alchemist that in a Trice
Life's leaden Metal into Gold transmute.
--Edward FitzGerald, "The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam"

"A touch, a touch, I do confess."

I overstep myself.

Tell me where is fancy bred,
Or in the heart or in the head?
How begot, how nourished?
Reply, reply.
It is engender’d in the eyes,
With gazing fed; and fancy dies
In the cradle, where it lies.
Let us all ring fancy’s knell;
I’ll begin it – Ding, dong, bell.

Ding, dong, bell.

Sung as Basanio is trying to choose the casket with Portia's portrait so that he might be permitted to marry her.

X

Originally Posted by majurey

...
Tell me where is fancy bred
...

I don't know about Shakespeare, but I get my mine from this quaint little bakery just down the road. They do a lovely herb and garlic pull-apart...

James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

I don't know about Shakespeare, but I get my mine from this quaint little bakery just down the road. They do a lovely herb and garlic pull-apart...
James.

Ha ha, good one, James!

Another norm: Personal Space.

Every quarter my company has an off-site meeting for our executive management team. We have a golf outing on Sunday, meetings Mon & Tues. Dinner each night, poker (excuse me, bridge (HR says we can't say poker, even though our Director of HR is often a bigger winner, LOL)) games after dinner. Drinks, cigars, etc.

My wife and I have made a tradition of going to the meeting a day early for a mini-vacation. A chance to rest and relax away from home. She goes home on Sunday morning to prepare for the next week.

This quarter we are at a resort at Lake Lanier Islands just north of Atlanta. When we arrived yesterday morning we found the hotel packed full with a gathering of people from India. It is some type of organized event. When I say packed I'm not exaggerating. All of the common areas are literally packed with people. It's very difficult to even walk down the hallway. There will be 10-12 people, adults, teens, small children walking towards you. Normally here when this situation occurs people move to the right of the hall and everyone passes. Several times we've almost had to fight our way through. I remember studying differences in personal space but is this common in other areas?