Thread: Is it possible for us as men to have a discussion on God

Originally Posted by JMS

Come on guys! This is a God thread not a sci-fi thread...

well, we could always discuss Scientology and make it both...

Now come on, its clear you need to be audited with an E-meter to check your level of Thetans.

Originally Posted by Hutch

Now come on, its clear you need to be audited with an E-meter to check your level of Thetans.

Hutch, I think you're right! So, I just went to the lab here at work and checked myself out with an E-meter. (For some reason, all the other engineers refer to it as a multimeter or ohmmeter... guess they don't like mr. Hubbard)

I apparently have a spirit reading of "20", whatever that means

Originally Posted by jockeys

I apparently have a spirit reading of "20", whatever that means

Hey, me too!

There was a little fluctuation that had me kinda worried, but it averages out nicely.

Originally Posted by jockeys

Hutch, I think you're right! So, I just went to the lab here at work and checked myself out with an E-meter. (For some reason, all the other engineers refer to it as a multimeter or ohmmeter... guess they don't like mr. Hubbard)

I apparently have a spirit reading of "20", whatever that means

Sooo....

where did you stick the probes?

Well, I put one probe in my spirit, and the other in my soul.

Originally Posted by Hutch

I only used the term "irrational" as that was a direct quote from the movie.

I think that major point is that, these religious people (those in the movie) have rational beliefs in the rest of their lives, thus saying they are "normal" , another term I'm sure I will get i trouble for, but with regards to religion (to use a movie term) they suspend their belief. Some believe these biblical stories without any. In the movie Bill asked,"if as children you were taught the Jack and , Jack the Beanstalk was a biblical tale, would you all be defending it"?

I have many religious friends, of many different faiths, I respect them all, they are people that seem to have a good moral grounding. Some of them attribute their morals to their religion. If thats what it takes then so be it. I have a similar moral outlook, yet personally I believe in my mind what is morally right, I personally don't require a supernatural being to keep me in line.

It's not even that I don't believe, I just don't know, as a person with freewill and thought, I believe it's my duty as a human to question and explore.

I personally can't understand those that don't question or get upset by others that do question their "faith". To me it's like getting upset when someone tells me they think Star Trek is better than Star Wars, when Star Wars is clearly better (which has many religious themes through out).

This the definition of irrational that I used when using that term

Irrational
-not logical or reasonable.

The problem with Bill's question is that it makes a supposition, as Jack and the Beanstalk is not a Biblical story.

When I was 12 I thought Star Wars was the greatest movie ever made. Saw it 10 times or whatever when it first came out.


Have you actually watched it since then? They all stink! The first one, second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth all stink. Some of the stuff in the movies are super cool- ala lightsabers, stormtroopers, Death Stars. But as entertainment....forget it.


Princess Leia?

Seven of Nine?

Is that even a fair contest?

I still like the Original then they deteriorate in order of release, over all still a good story.

Originally Posted by Seraphim

The problem with Bill's question is that it makes a supposition, as Jack and the Beanstalk is not a Biblical story.

That's why it's prefaced with an if. The church has chosen for you what makes up the New Testament, there are books that were and are not included. If the church had wanted they could have included the Gospel of the Brothers Grimm.

Is Jack and the Beanstalk or Alice In Wonderland any more unrealistic than the stories of Jonah and the Whale (or big fish), or Noah and the Arc?