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    it's a big and very prosperous city and the biggest port on that sea. That's reason enough.
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    I get the Boise being part of Canada analogy, it makes a lot of sense.

    What about West Berlin, there was a time not that long ago when Berlin was firmly inside East Germany and there was a Motorway with a fence on each side of it to get there (Berlin Corridor).

    One of the reasons that Canada is not keen on Quebec separating is that it would cut the country in half. A passport to go from Ontario to New Brunswick or Nova Scotia maybe?
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    For Russia, the obvious prequel solution would have been to....


    join NATO.

    Seriously I am afraid we are going to get sucked into this one quite deeply. Putin is obviously losing his marbles. I think we have a new Hitler out there, at least the expansionist, "Liebensraum" part. Is it any different from "manifest destiny"? I like to think that by now the world has learned that it is wrong to expand one's borders at the expense of another country.

    Ukraine is NOT a NATO member and we have no legal obligation to come to their aid, nor does NATO. However I do believe that Putin needs to be stopped, and territorial gains rolled back to where the borders were at the time of the breakup of the USSR. Ukraine ought to be an independent nation and able to determine its own destiny without being invaded and punished or even annexed by another country. Ukraine is at least nominally a democracy, and the installation of a pro Russian puppet government would be a terrible thing to happen. And if it can happen to Ukraine, it can happen to other countries. NATO is not as cohesive as it was pre-Reagan. Article 5 had very strong and sharp teeth, back then. I am afraid that smaller countries could be rolled up by the Russian expansionist juggernaut while NATO tries half hearted measures and the US waffles on engaging directly in a European war.

    One thing you can be sure of, though. Big business thrives in a war. Buy NASDAQ ETF's and futures, that's all I will say.

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