Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
Defeatist or realist?

You talk in generalities not specifics. The bully on the school bus doesn't have a nuclear bomb in his pocket.

We've gone pretty far with sanctions and with a country like Russia where the population is being fed a bunch of propaganda you reach a point where sanctions just bring the population together to view the West as the evil ones. Some think that way already. A view is forming where Western Corporations were damaging the "Heart and Soul" of Russia. Good riddens to them. Unless they overthrow him Putin isn't going anywhere and he doesn't care about his soldiers or population.

If nuclear weapons didn't exist the world could march in and throw Russia out but that ain't gonna happen. The nuclear card changes everything. We are in uncharted territory here which is why everyone is walking on eggshells here.
They have the same reality that we do. Whoever wants to push the envelope realizes that is the potential. They know what they're dealing with. And if you arent being attacked then who would authorize that? So the Ukraine should just roll over because Russia has nukes? This thing will end soon. And they need to leave a way out for Putin. Somebody a lot smarter than you or me will have to figure that out.