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    Mccain, Hillary, Romney, Obama is in my opion all scary canidates. Bought and paid for by the highest bidder. Kucinich and Paul were about the only fresh air in this election cycle. All the others are allready indebted and entrenched in to a system that commands their obedience and to be good little puppets. I think there all being manipulated into the same direction regardless of party afflilation. So pick your poison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Sorry to butt in on something I know nothing about, but how likely do you think it is that McCain and Clinton will end up the candidates for their respective parties? From the Democrat perspective, for example, our news reported a few days ago that Obama received the Kennedy nod - is that important enough for Clinton to drop off the running?

    I honestly don't know how you guys cope with all the information - several hopefuls for each party spruking their policies and campaigning against each other - it's all I can do to keep track of our guys, and there's only two of them!

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    No --- I don't think so. I really don't know how important Kennedy's backing is.

    Most don't or can't. Most of us just glide along until the weeding out process is complete. Personally, I really think the media plays too big of an influential role in all of this. Layers upon layers of stinking onion ----

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    McCain's got my vote if he gets the nomination, because he seems pretty trustworthy and level headed. Plus, he actually has a brain and isn't afraid to vote across party lines on issues that he feels strongly on.

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    I am neither Democrat nor Republican, and I have no idea how I'll vote this year. I do respect McCain for his military service and POW status. I like how he stood up for the Geneva Conventions when few others would. He has guts and conviction, but I do find myself disagreeing with him a lot.

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    I'm one who respects McCain greatly for his military service and what he endured as a POW. What I don't like is when such things carry someone through an election. What I mean is sometimes people are almost deemed untouchable or not-questionable --- every time McCain is confronted --people say "yes but remember he was a POW and a war hero". As great as this was , it is what he stands for now ---- the man he is now --- his policies now -- that is important.

    Personally, I want to like McCain because I know his history but I try to force myself beyond it. I like mavericks but I'm trying to force myself beyond this as well. I think the media likes him because he's their type of conservative --- just like Huckabee (sounds like someone you meet at the fishing hole) was their darling not too long ago --- compassionate conservatives so compassionate that they might as well be liberals and democrats. But I'm not sure if I trust him or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uofi1963 View Post
    I usually don't get into these postings. I'm just too old for the stress.

    But, some of us on this board are democrats. And, brace yourselves: I'm also a former union officer. It was a teachers' union, sort of union light, but a union non the less.

    I highly respect John McCain. He's truly a hero. Yet his projected policies of never ending war, and renewed tax cutting will do nothing to dig us out of the deep hole the present administration has created. And, without a military draft, it's just to easy to send other people's kids off to war when yours are at no risk.

    Our country has crumbling infrastructure, an imploding medical system, and is basically financially bankrupt. It was Eisenhower, a republican, who prophetically warned of this type of scenario. The old McCain, a budget hawk, would have heeded this.

    This old union guy has one more parting thought for you. The decline of the American middle class correlates almost perfectly with the decline of the American labor movement.
    True in many cases...and "W" has done so much for the country....I mean the deficit is so much less than when he started and the US is so much more respected globally...oh, wait, I got that backwards....the deficit was ZERO when he came into office......

    I wonder what the National Archives treats the Constitution with to keep it clean...I mean it still looks good and given how often Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales used it as toilet paper, you'd think there would be some staining. I want to know what they use and see if it comes in a car wax!


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    Just a couple of thoughts. I normally will stay out of this as I am right on the fence in the middle. I just saw a couple things I wanted to comment on.

    I don't care if McCain is a hero or not. It isn't what he went through, but the man he became because of it. I do like his humility and how he doesn't try to talk about his POW past until pressed. When pressed he talks but it and then, mostly about the others he was with.

    Second and I don't disagree with the gentleman whom brought this up but in the interest of truth. McCain is the only member of Congress who's Son was on the front line. Though others have children in the military, the younger McCain was the only one on the front, in harms way.

    Now all of that being said, I also find myself respectively disagreeing with him on many issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    I don't really care who wins, as long it is someone who is able to think about long term results of what he/she does.
    What country are you talking about? Can't be the U.S. Longterm thinking and either politics or business are mutually exclusive traits not to be found in this country anymore. Its all about short term rewards, gratification, profits. Let the next generation worry about it.
    No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero

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    McCain scares me, but not as much as any of the Democratic runners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valhson View Post
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    Second and I don't disagree with the gentleman whom brought this up but in the interest of truth. McCain is the only member of Congress who's Son was on the front line. Though others have children in the military, the younger McCain was the only one on the front, in harms way.

    Now all of that being said, I also find myself respectively disagreeing with him on many issues.
    Interesting. I agree that military service alone would not decide my vote. But I am annoyed by all the hawks in Washington who have never worn a uniform. At least McCain knows something about whereof he speaks.

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