Thread: The furious back peddling of Obama! (Can you hear the whistling of the wind?)

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05...tical-counsel/
I wonder if the DNC super delegates will have the balls required to drop Obama, not that Clinton is any better, but I believe Obama is really demonstrating his inability to be an effective president!
I believe we face a serious problem in this country right now! Men like Wright, Jackson, and Sharpton will suffer from an Obama presidency as it renders their rhetoric impotent, yet if Obama loses, these same type of men will benefit from the riots that they themselves will help to spawn!
At this moment in history, America needs another Martin Luther King Jr. to save us from those who would create and capitalize on racial friction!

I normally try to stay away from political talk, but I thought I might chime in here.

I don't quite understand the point you are trying to make with this article. It would seem to me that Obama is declaring that his political agenda is not in any way tied to Wright, but that he does wish to continue their friendship. To me, as long as he is truthful with regard to the first part, I find it incredible that he is willing to preserve relationships with people, rather than throw them away for personal benefit like almost any other politician.

Now I realize that's a big IF on the first part, but I do really REALLY appreciate that Obama started out trying to run a clean campaign. The fact that they are having so much trouble coming up with dirt on him from his past is a sign to me that he actually is a good person. In the mean time, Hillary has been making up several lies that have been proven false by even the mass media, including denying NAFTA support, claiming explicitly on numerous occasions that she was under sniper fire with an elaborate made-up story, and circulating images of Obama dressed respectfully according to culture in middle-eastern clothing and calling him a terrorist. This is all available in footage available on YouTube for those who care to look it up. She has been playing dirty from the start and cannot debate on serious issues, only throw around insults and false accusations. I have lost all respect for the Clinton campaign.

That said, I also have a reasonable amount of respect for McCain. I would love to see Obama vs. McCain, and I personally think that the Dem support is so split right now that McCain will have an easy win.

*please note the above is based purely on character of the candidates and not the platforms they are running on.

The article just got me to see that Obama is obviously nervous and willing to say anything or go back on anything that he has said to please who he needs to to get nominated, and the thread was meant to go in that direction, but I got to considering some deeper questions while I was posting and the result is this thread! Disregard the article and comment on my thoughts, or comment on the article and disregard my thoughts!
I'm hoping that people will consider my thoughts more than the article, but since the thread title falls more in line with the article I think I'll leave it as is! Hopefully this won't cause any more confusion.

Originally Posted by JMS

The article just got me to see that Obama is obviously nervous and willing to say anything or go back on anything that he has said to please who he needs to to get nominated

Doesn't that go for all presidential candidates. You don't exactly get to a position like that without conforming to the wishes of whatever body that decides.

Originally Posted by Mike_ratliff

The only group that can't use this cop-out is heterosexual caucasian males of average build... Sucks to be one of them, you'd have to actually accept responsibility for who you are, and what you do...

Yeah, sucks to be priviliged. I've seen statements like this a few times, and I can never tell if people are serious when they say it.

You just don't like me because I'm a heterosexual Caucasian male of average build... Oh... yeah...

Originally Posted by ewanhuzarmie

You just don't like me because I'm a heterosexual Caucasian male of average build... Oh... yeah...

Get that man some reparations!

Originally Posted by bjrn

Doesn't that go for all presidential candidates. You don't exactly get to a position like that without conforming to the wishes of whatever body that decides.

Actually, a leader leads, he does not pander or try to please!

Originally Posted by bjrn

Yeah, sucks to be priviliged. I've seen statements like this a few times, and I can never tell if people are serious when they say it.

Reading this statement, one would have to assume that you believe that all white males are privileged, and everyone else are just not smart enough, or don't have the capability of getting ahead in the world! It is thoughts and attitudes like these that keep the poor,poor and keep the uneducated, uneducated! As if they didn't have the wherewithal to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and make something of themselves! this sort of thought process is racist, as it applies certain characteristics to certain races!
I hope thats not what you meant, is it?

You're not actually looking to FOX for news are you?

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Originally Posted by JMS

Originally Posted by bjrn

Yeah, sucks to be priviliged. I've seen statements like this a few times, and I can never tell if people are serious when they say it.

Reading this statement, one would have to assume that you believe that all white males are privileged, and everyone else are just not smart enough, or don't have the capability of getting ahead in the world! It is thoughts and attitudes like these that keep the poor,poor and keep the uneducated, uneducated! As if they didn't have the wherewithal to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and make something of themselves! this sort of thought process is racist, as it applies certain characteristics to certain races!
I hope thats not what you meant, is it?

No. I did not mean to imply that I thought that if you're a white man you've got it easy (and certainly not because of some genetic predisposition). I do think that there are a range of situations where you've got it easier if you're white and/or male.

Originally Posted by bjrn

Doesn't that go for all presidential candidates. You don't exactly get to a position like that without conforming to the wishes of whatever body that decides.

Yeah, sucks to be priviliged. I've seen statements like this a few times, and I can never tell if people are serious when they say it.

How does this make me priviliged?
Does fitting in this category automatically make me a Kennedy?
no...
It means I don't qualify for most of the scholarships out there, It means I am priviliged enough to have to work my way through school, with no assistance, while the guy sitting next to me who doesn't appreciate his education is getting a free ride.
It means I have to be careful and think before I open my mouth, because almost anything I say can be used against me, where those poor underpriviliged minorities don't have the same restrictions, and can say whatever they want about me in public, because my "race" makes me the bad guy.
It means if I tell the guy who's calling me names that he's ignorant, I'm only saying that because he's not caucasian.

For those of you out there who think caucasians are not the victims of racism, think again. Not only are we the victims of it, it's government sponsored.

Try having your highschool counselor tell you she can't help you, and that the only thing you did wrong was to be born what you are. (white and male)
How about when she tells you that if you were a minority female with a child she could get you a free ride. Even better, when you fill out those applications and they ask if you're a drug addict, mark yes, you're almost guaranteed to get in.

My parents couldn't help me, I didn't get a penny of assistance, I had to work my way through school, I had to take what classes I could afford, and it has taken me 3 times longer to finish my education because of it.

But I'm the racist, I'm the priviliged one...


And if you think it stops there, think again, Employers are bound by similar rules... Frankly anybody can say or do anything against white males because they are considered the majority, and there is little or no recourse.
The simple fact of this has not escaped minorities, I was a lower level supervisor, and had a Female subordinate refuse to take orders from me because "I'm old enough to be your mother"
When I wrote her up for insubordination, she accused me of discriminating against her because of her age, and I was reprimanded... She didn't have to provide any proof, nor was the evidence of the matter considered... Employers are so scared that the ACLU is going to march in they won't consider the actual facts.


Where does it say it's okay to discriminate against me for the actions of my ancestors?

You weren't a slave, and i never owned slaves, it's time to move on.