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Chimensch No conspiracy to blow-up WTC 7 08-22-2008, 11:35 AM
Bruno If I remember correctly, WTC7... 08-22-2008, 11:41 AM
Nickelking yep bruno! Worked a bit with... 08-22-2008, 11:53 AM
Chimensch Then how come no skyscraper... 08-22-2008, 11:53 AM
LX_Emergency Maybe because no skyscraper... 08-22-2008, 12:01 PM
Chimensch The Empire State Building was... 08-22-2008, 12:16 PM
Bruno Remember: WTC7 was already... 08-22-2008, 12:38 PM
Seraphim Perhaps because two of the... 08-22-2008, 01:10 PM
Chimensch Too unique, in my opinion. ... 08-22-2008, 01:23 PM
Bruno Here's the summary from /. ... 08-24-2008, 06:02 PM
UTinfidel Wonderful find. We can bring... 08-25-2008, 04:27 AM
billyjeff2 I can't believe all the... 08-27-2008, 01:39 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimensch View Post
    Then how come no skyscraper has ever collapsed after fire damage except for the three that fell on 9/11?
    Remember: WTC7 was already missing one of its 4 corner structures and was under an incredible amount of internal stresses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimensch View Post
    Then how come no skyscraper has ever collapsed after fire damage except for the three that fell on 9/11?
    Perhaps because two of the buildings in question were two of the tallest in the world, on fire, at the same time with flaming jetliners inside them?

    Pretty unique situation, if you ask me...

    Just because someone is an "engineer" doesn't bestow great wisdom and omniscience. Engineers are evryday goobers like you and me.

    As a matter of fact, I'm an engineer myself!

    The farthest I'm willing to believe any possible conspiracy theory is that perhaps, perhaps They knew that Al Queda was going to do something, and let them do so, as they knew that would allow them to proceed with Their plands for Iraq.

    The jets, the fires, the collapses---result of brilliant terrorist madmen, not that hard to comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Pretty unique situation, if you ask me...
    Too unique, in my opinion.

    And no, I'm not an engineer ... I don't even play one on TV. But I am a translator. I read what one person wrote in a foreign language and repeat it in English. This makes me a very careful reader who goes to great lengths to understand exactly what is being said so that I can faithfully relay it to others. I've listened to both sides of the argument and all I can say is that the side that says the official version isn't true makes a lot more sense to me. That's my bottom line ... I don't know who did it but I'm damn sure that the official version is not true.

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    Here's the summary from /.

    Of course as a theory it is totally un-sexy and uninspiring, so no doubt the conspiracy nuts will still blame the illuminati, the government, aliens or Elvis.
    After all, science is just numbers, and far too boring to dispell the notion of a conspiracy. Especially since most of the people don't understand or even mistrust advanced math, whereas blaming the government can always meet with 'aye's.

    Full NIST report can be found here.
    NIST WTC 7 Investigation Finds Building Fires Caused Collapse, 08/21/08

    The main conclusion is that the building came down due to fire, not due to debris damage or some conspiracy demolition team. The fire started pretty small after the collapse of WTC 1, but was left to burn several floors out completely. The important finding is that the collapse was triggered by thermal expansion of beams, which could detach asymmetrically loaded girders from the main columns. Some limited pancaking of floors then caused a lack of lateral support and buckling of a single column. This triggered the failure of the entire core of the building, which finally fell down as a single piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Here's the summary from /.

    Of course as a theory it is totally un-sexy and uninspiring, so no doubt the conspiracy nuts will still blame the illuminati, the government, aliens or Elvis.
    After all, science is just numbers, and far too boring to dispell the notion of a conspiracy. Especially since most of the people don't understand or even mistrust advanced math, whereas blaming the government can always meet with 'aye's.

    Full NIST report can be found here.
    NIST WTC 7 Investigation Finds Building Fires Caused Collapse, 08/21/08
    Wonderful find. We can bring these horses to water....

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    I can't believe all the mis-information on this topic.
    Truth is... BigFoot did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyjeff2 View Post
    I can't believe all the mis-information on this topic.
    Truth is... BigFoot did it.
    So it was the left wing tree huggers?
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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    I'm NOT one for conspiracy theories which is exactly why I don't believe the official story coming from the US feds. It reeks of disinformation. The reason the American people will never be given the answers they look for is because that would implicate too many powerful people. 911 was clearly an inside job. That doesn't mean that some branch or branches of the government are responsible. Powerful individuals, who have the reigns in several key positions throughout the structures of government pulled off a modern Crystal Nacht. How it all fits together with the Saudis is and will always remain a mystery.

    I despise this time of year when the gullible get their day of mourning to remember why they need to kill foreigners dubbed with the name of terrorist and support the military-industrial complex despite the warning of Dwight D. Eisenhower in his farewell address to the nation in 1961: "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." I shudder to think of the callousness men of power display and the disregard the have for ordinary people.

    The official line is that the destruction of WTC was intended by the terrorists to send a blow of epic proportion through the American economy when the truth is that the destruction of those three buildings specifically prevented such a disaster. Within WTC were the records of the Enron scandal which coupled with the real estate fiascoes of the earliest years of this century, would have sent America into a mighty depression. The towers themselves were multi-billion dollar lemons which would have iced the cake.

    911=JFK
    Couldn't have happened the way they say.

    X

    PS where's Bin Laden ... STILL!
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