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    Obama answered roll call votes 99% of the time in 2006 and 66% of the time in 2007 as his campaign got under way. This session, he has voted in 70 out of 169 roll call votes, and it is conceded that he has made every effort to be present for key votes.

    By way of comparison, in that same time period, John McCain was present in 2006 for roll call 91% of the time; in 2007, as his campaign got under way, it dropped to 44% of the time. This session, he has answered roll call 36 out of 169 times.

    Spin that.

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    Oh, and by the way, "The One" was first mentioned in a McCain attack ad. Obama never said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    Obama answered roll call votes 99% of the time in 2006 and 66% of the time in 2007 as his campaign got under way. This session, he has voted in 70 out of 169 roll call votes, and it is conceded that he has made every effort to be present for key votes.

    By way of comparison, in that same time period, John McCain was present in 2006 for roll call 91% of the time; in 2007, as his campaign got under way, it dropped to 44% of the time. This session, he has answered roll call 36 out of 169 times.

    Spin that.

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    Oh, and by the way, "The One" was first mentioned in a McCain attack ad. Obama never said it.
    Link please

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    Spin that.


    I saw that too, of course. The difference is that although both of them have shirked their duties to run for President, Obama has spent very little time in the Senate at all, not even finishing his first and only term yet.

    McCain has 10 times more experience actually voting in the Senate. That was what I highlighted and outlined above. If I can remember that the topic is "Obamas experience?" then it becomes a stark contrast between McCain's and Obama's.

    And if I can remember that Scott said "He's shown up for most of the votes, Joe." then I can see why someone (me) would want to actually report what the percentage is, since "most" is 50%+ and Obama barely exceeds that. McCain has not been present for most of the votes since 2007, but he can draw on past experience because he has a past (however inglorious!) in the Senate
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    Link please
    Gee, you didn't ask for links on any of the other statements. Please promise me that you care about the truth even when you agree with something.

    Here's your link: Candidates' Senate votes fall by wayside on campaign trail - USATODAY.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    I saw that too, of course. The difference is that although both of them have shirked their duties to run for President, Obama has spent very little time in the Senate at all, not even finishing his first and only term yet.

    McCain has 10 times more experience actually voting in the Senate. That was what I highlighted and outlined above. If I can remember that the topic is "Obamas experience?" then it becomes a stark contrast between McCain's and Obama's.

    And if I can remember that Scott said "He's shown up for most of the votes, Joe." then I can see why someone (me) would want to actually report what the percentage is, since "most" is 50%+ and Obama barely exceeds that. McCain has not been present for most of the votes since 2007, but he can draw on past experience because he has a past (however inglorious!) in the Senate
    Look, you can be an Obama Hater if you want. It's a free country. But please be fair with the facts. There has been a particular wealth of misinformation about Obama on these threads this week, and it seems that some people just swallow it whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    Gee, you didn't ask for links on any of the other statements. Please promise me that you care about the truth even when you agree with something.

    Here's your link: Candidates' Senate votes fall by wayside on campaign trail - USATODAY.com

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    Thanks!
    I didn't need to ask for links as the comments I was interested in already had links!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    Obama answered roll call votes 99% of the time in 2006 and 66% of the time in 2007 as his campaign got under way. This session, he has voted in 70 out of 169 roll call votes, and it is conceded that he has made every effort to be present for key votes.

    By way of comparison, in that same time period, John McCain was present in 2006 for roll call 91% of the time; in 2007, as his campaign got under way, it dropped to 44% of the time. This session, he has answered roll call 36 out of 169 times.

    Spin that.

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    Oh, and by the way, "The One" was first mentioned in a McCain attack ad. Obama never said it.
    I particularly enjoyed that medicare vote that nary a Senator missed. Even Ted Kennedy managed to pull himself out of the recovery room to vote. It was quite the picture. To bad McCain missed it.

    In fairness, I think that the traveling back and forth is too much for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    Obama answered roll call votes 99% of the time in 2006 and 66% of the time in 2007 as his campaign got under way. This session, he has voted in 70 out of 169 roll call votes, and it is conceded that he has made every effort to be present for key votes.

    By way of comparison, in that same time period, John McCain was present in 2006 for roll call 91% of the time; in 2007, as his campaign got under way, it dropped to 44% of the time. This session, he has answered roll call 36 out of 169 times.

    Spin that.

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    Oh, and by the way, "The One" was first mentioned in a McCain attack ad. Obama never said it.
    McCain's been at it 26 years. Obama less than 2. He really should be trying harder. They're not equals. And what stands has Obama taken? What bills has he authored? What committees has he chaired? For that matter, what communities did he "organize"? Are they better? Worse? What did he actually do? Look, I think both candidates are full of crap...they always are. But McCain is a more palatable crapfest than the Manchurian Candidate. And perhaps you're right...maybe Obama didn't refer to himself as "The One"...I don't know. He did, however, refer to himself as a Muslim...it took Stephanopoulos to correct him and put him back on track. Much like Howard the Rtard Dean's "YEEAAAARRGH!!!", this should wreck his candidacy if people are paying attention.

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    I'm always amazed at how the same people who discount Joe Biden as a "Washington Insider" also claim that McCain is superior because he's -- wait for it -- a Washington Insider.

    It's also easy to discount Obama's experience when you either don't know what it is or don't know what it's about.

    Here's a fact: McCain: bottom 1% of his graduating class at Navy (which he got into because of connections)
    Obama: Magnum Cum Laude at Harvard Law.

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    McCain still has more senate experience. All washington insiders have more senate experience than Obama. Maybe that's why Obama chose one to run as VP with him - I can only speculate.
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