Thread: Palin vs Biden!

Originally Posted by WireBeard

She was definitely struggling with Foreign Affairs. And I'm not sure what war she meant when she said McCain knows how to win a war.....

People seem really hung up on 'war' and 'winning' and 'terrrrists'
But wouldn't this be the appropriate time to start discussing plans for bringing the economy back from the smurfcan?

Perhaps something along the line of balancing the budget for a change, with concrete proposals before the election? Now that would be a debate worth watching.

Originally Posted by lpj

My friend, if you will allow;

It is for us all to remember (and I believe you do) that the ballot is stronger than the bullet, or in this case, the hammer. Would that a few whacks to the head would do a lot of politicians good, to be sure. But would it ultimately change their mind or just dull their will to speak it? We should consider the definition of a politician; one who compresses the most words into the smallest idea of any man. If we could really learn about the men behind the words in their speeches, and what they are truly capable of, in spite of what they will be allowed to do, we would all sleep less secure tonite and tomorrow.

Lee

How about a few whacks just for entertainment value?

I watched about 10 minutes of the debate before I decided the rest of it was going to be more of the same and decided to do something else.

If anything, this debate only reinforces my belief that we should all write-in Chuck Norris this November. Quit trying to pick the lesser of two evils and vote for a real man.

Remember: Chuck Norris doesn't debate, he roundhouse kicks children and drinks their blood. I'd like to see another candidate with that kind of male-reproductive-organ fortitude.

I thought Palin didn't embarrass herself, and did OK. I think Biden was very good. Personally, I wish he had went after Palin on her Machiavellian purges and cronyistic appointments in Alaska when given the opportunity, but I can certainly understand why he chose not to. My favorite moment was the "John McCain's no maverick" soliloquy. If it had come earlier, Palin's "maverick" talking point would have just sounded silly every time she said it (and she wouldn't have stopped saying it), but it had great effect when he said it. In fact, the undecided tracker in CNN spiked downward every time she said "maverick" any way, so maybe Biden was right.

Palin had some rather weak moments. My favorite was when she started talking about the Constitutional role of the office of VP, suggesting she would have more power than Cheney, followed by Biden's assertion that Cheney has been the most dangerous VP in history.

Originally Posted by Bruno

People seem really hung up on 'war' and 'winning' and 'terrrrists'
But wouldn't this be the appropriate time to start discussing plans for bringing the economy back from the smurfcan?

You probably have to talk about the war in the context of a hole you throw money into if you want to address the economy.

Originally Posted by WireBeard

She was definitely struggling with Foreign Affairs. And I'm not sure what war she meant when she said McCain knows how to win a war.....

You're not sure what she meant? She was referring to McCain's strong support of the surge which has led to the US achieving victory in Iraq

Is there victory in Iraq? Did I miss all the troops coming home? Let me check CNN to see if I have missed something........

I'm still waiting for the WMDs and the proof Iraq was involved in 9/11...as, I'm sure. are some of the parents of the deceased soldiers.

Please note: I did not wink back, though I did wonder why Joe Biden didn’t wink at me too when he had the opportunity. Sarah had me at “heckava,” or was it at “goshdarnit,” or maybe it was at “ooh boy you betcha.” No, I know when it was. . . it was the twentieth time she said, “maverick.” That’s when she really had me. Nah, I’ve changed my mind. She really, really had me when she said "nucular." And I just loved it every time she said “energy.” I counted up to 24 beautiful utterances of that word. And did you know Alaska is an oil-producing state? I'm glad Sarah mentioned that over and over again. Every time she said it, I added (though quietly in a whisper), “Drill, Baby, drill!”
Maybe winking has worked so well for her for so long that now she can't stop herself.

Originally Posted by WireBeard

Is there victory in Iraq?

absolutely

Check this out, it's an interesting read at least: As Iraqis stop living in fear, end of Iraq war is at hand

an excerpt:

So I will be very clear what I mean when I say we have won the war. A counterinsurgency is won when the government's legitimacy is no longer threatened by the insurgents, the government is able to protect its own people and the people are participating in the government. In Iraq, all three conditions apply.

Did you miss all the troops coming home? No, the US doesn't like to do that, does it. Win a war, leave several tens of thousands of troops behind for whatever reasons, keep the peace, rebuilding, etc. Unfortunately, many troops leaving Iraq are being sent to Afghanistan. But don't forget those who have come back to the US. I don't know how many already have, but here's another press release you may have missed "The United States will withdraw 8,000 troops from Iraq by February and launch a "quiet surge" in Afghanistan, President George Bush said today."

Originally Posted by WireBeard

I'm still waiting for the WMDs and the proof Iraq was involved in 9/11...as, I'm sure. are some of the parents of the deceased soldiers.

Are you really? I guess you're unaware then of this CNN report: Report: Iraq intelligence 'dead wrong'?

Originally Posted by Philadelph

, I must be Jesus Christ... not that he existed.

Highly inappropriate.

Matt