Thread: They banned Christmas!

Whatever happened to common courtesy?

I agree, attacks on religious holidays are silly. Christmas is as much a secular holiday as a religious holiday.

I think the problem seems to come from the exclusion of other's religious festivities, rather than do away with the Christian holidays, what's the problem with including others? I think the answer should be ours and everyone else's rather than ours or nothing.

Guys lets be careful here. Talk your opinions do not put down others. Or this thread is going bad and out.

Originally Posted by Hutch

I agree, attacks on religious holidays are silly. Christmas is as much a secular holiday as a religious holiday.

I think the problem seems to come from the exclusion of other's religious festivities, rather than do away with the Christian holidays, what's the problem with including others? I think the answer should be ours and everyone else's rather than ours or nothing.

Holidays and Beliefs our your own. No one should be involved need to include or not include. What you believe in is for you and no one else to say right or wrong. When people or body's of people find it to intrude on this it is wrong.

Originally Posted by Don

Holidays and Beliefs our your own. No one should be involved need to include or not include. What you believe in is for you and no one else to say right or wrong. When people or body's of people find it to intrude on this it is wrong.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

Are you saying it is wrong to enjoy someone else celebrations, and learn about them?

I have no problem when some wishes me a Merry Christmas, or my Jewish friends wish me a Happy Hanukkah, or my Indian friends wish me Happy Diwali, these are important things to them and they choose to include me I take that as a compliment.

I think the argument is that there are public displays of religious holidays, in North America they are mostly Christian, what is the problem with allowing other religions to have public displays if they wish to have them?

Originally Posted by Hutch

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

Are you saying it is wrong to enjoy someone else celebrations, and learn about them?

I have no problem when some wishes me a Merry Christmas, or my Jewish friends wish me a Happy Hanukkah, or my Indian friends wish me Happy Diwali, these are important things to them and they choose to include me I take that as a compliment.

I think the argument is that there are public displays of religious holidays, in North America they are mostly Christian, what is the problem with allowing other religions to have public displays if they wish to have them?

No what I am saying is you can enjoy what ever you want and so can everyone else. And if someone chooses not to recognize other beliefs that is their free choice. This country was founded in Christianity but it allows all to choose with out persecution from others. Your beliefs are yours

Hutch, you're welcome. It had nothing to do with your ideas and everything to do with the incessant thanking you do around here. I suppose that just makes me a, shudder, conservateur. Yeah, a conservative in French. Dum, dum, dum!

I think the argument is that there are public displays of religious holidays, in North America they are mostly Christian, what is the problem with allowing other religions to have public displays if they wish to have them?

The answer to your question? "In North America they are mostly Christian."

Originally Posted by Whiggamore

Hutch, you're welcome. It had nothing to do with your ideas and everything to do with the incessant thanking you do around here. I suppose that just makes me a, shudder, conservateur. Yeah, a conservative in French. Dum, dum, dum!



The answer to your question? "In North America they are mostly Christian."

I guess its your job to police the thanking, and calling me a "tool" was only about my thanking too often. Considering I have thanked 30 times and you have thanked 35 and I've been here longer and have more post. Who "thanks" too much? More rightwing spin, fast and loose with the truth.

Originally Posted by Whiggamore

Hutch, you're welcome. It had nothing to do with your ideas and everything to do with the incessant thanking you do around here. I suppose that just makes me a, shudder, conservateur. Yeah, a conservative in French. Dum, dum, dum!



The answer to your question? "In North America they are mostly Christian."

Yes in North America they are mostly Christian, that what I said in my post. So what is the problem including others celebrations and symbols, other than the fact many of the religious right feel it will take away from theirs, just like gays getting married somehow effects their marriages.

The religious right were upset with the inclusion of Wiccan on soldiers graves.

Oxford city council confirmed the events in the city would be renamed 'Winter Light Festival' to make them more inclusive, provoking outrage among shoppers in the city who called for a return to tradition.

If I were a council member I would have proposed to use the truthful name 'The Big Winter Shopping'.
As far as I'm concerned decorating a tree, depleting your bank account or even worse increasing your debt is not a celebration of Christmas. When I want to give gifts I generally don't need a day or a season that the society has deemed appropriate for that.
Of course, you can easily tell that I have no kids.