Thread: Obamas first bad decision.

I didn't vote for Obama, but lets give him a chance. Half the country wanted Bush to fail from the start. If we do this again we might be in worst shape by the time 2012 comes around. Strength comes by all pulling in the same direction. Just a thought DS

Originally Posted by Dicestone

Strength comes by all pulling in the same direction. Just a thought DS

Amen, brother. Can't we all just be Americans for once? I'm pretty young (34), but I don't recall ever seeing the country more divided. I wish we could all disagree on what we disagree on, but see each other as brothers and sisters FIRST, and people who disagree second....not bitter enemies.

Originally Posted by smokelaw1

Can't we all just be Americans for once?

I like and agree with the sentiment of national unity. However, 1)Not everyone is American. I accept that your point is not that everyone should be American but that everyone should back their nation. But point 2) If people gave Obama such a hard time trying to prove he is American, what hope does anyone else have? Why should you have to PROVE how much of a citizen of your country you are?!

Originally Posted by sidneykidney

I like and agree with the sentiment of national unity. However, 1)Not everyone is American. I accept that your point is not that everyone should be American but that everyone should back their nation. But point 2) If people gave Obama such a hard time trying to prove he is American, what hope does anyone else have? Why should you have to PROVE how much of a citizen of your country you are?!

I think that is a Republican characteristic since 9/11. After 9/11 you saw all these flags and yellow ribbons, all these comfortable insulated W.A.S.Ps thinking they were showing how American they were. It was amusing to me. The thing is, after a couple years, their sons began demanding to go into the service when they turned 18. It was amazing to see these numbers of young men who could have easily went to college on their parent's dime enlisting and eating crap with the grunts. A lot of those boys re-renlisted after their tours, or had the Army send them to college and became officers, on their own, not taking anything from Mommy and Daddy. This made their parents feel even more patriotic, and it became a middle age competition to see who was more American. I loved seeing those young men transform themselves from sniveling, entitled cowards to men who took responsibility for their actions, and for the safety of their brothers standing next to them. They are going to grow up to represent America as great ambassadors. Their parents? Not so much. Sometimes I think America needs war to mold our young. Isn't that a horrible thought? Since I was discharged, I haven't met any 18-25 year old children that hold a candle to those men I served with.

Originally Posted by Dicestone

I didn't vote for Obama, but lets give him a chance. Half the country wanted Bush to fail from the start. If we do this again we might be in worst shape by the time 2012 comes around. Strength comes by all pulling in the same direction. Just a thought DS

Unfortunately, I have to want Obama to fail. Most of the things he has promised and the things he says he will do are in my opinion the worst possible courses to take. Therefore the way I see it his complete and utter failure at his every action would mean that this country is taking the best and most proper course to a better future.

As far as working together and all going the same direction... That's what Lemmings do too.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

As far as working together and all going the same direction... That's what Lemmings do too.

Need to check your facts Tim. Whilst there is partial truth in what you say, Lemmings no more go in the same direction than a heard of buffalo. However I believe you were insinuating (correct me if I am wrong) that Lemmings walk together on mass towards there death (or towards some other perilous situation worse than they were in before). Which they don't.

Unless you are talking about the green-haired, blue-coated fictional variety.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

Unfortunately, I have to want Obama to fail. Most of the things he has promised and the things he says he will do are in my opinion the worst possible courses to take. Therefore the way I see it his complete and utter failure at his every action would mean that this country is taking the best and most proper course to a better future.

As far as working together and all going the same direction... That's what Lemmings do too.

Well, if you saw Boner's op-ed in the Washington Post this morning, you're going to get your wish. According the the top-ranked Republican in the House, the culture wars will continue and we absolutely cannot count on them to help us solve our problems.

Happy?

j

Originally Posted by Wildtim

Unfortunately, I have to want Obama to fail. Most of the things he has promised and the things he says he will do are in my opinion the worst possible courses to take. Therefore the way I see it his complete and utter failure at his every action would mean that this country is taking the best and most proper course to a better future.

As far as working together and all going the same direction... That's what Lemmings do too.

Wow somehow I missed this jem. That is one of the most unpatriotic, inhuman statements I have witnessed yet. Someone would rather see their fellow countrymen suffer, and maybe die, just to prove a point. Boy that is special.

Jim of course its going to continue the rabid right needs a bogeyman, they had the Soviets, Terrorist, Gays, Socialist (even when they aren't), if they don't have one they'll invent one. I think they find fear sort of titillating in their sexually repressed world.

Originally Posted by Hutch

Jim of course its going to continue the rabid right needs a bogeyman, they had the Soviets, Terrorist, Gays, Socialist (even when they aren't), if they don't have one they'll invent one. I think they find fear sort of titillating in their sexually repressed world.

Well, then, it's very sad. If the Republicans maintain that view, they're going to be marginalized in ways they can't even imagine. They may even fail to survive.

Right now, they're in denial. They're doing everything in their power to claim that their loss was not a referendum on them, but the fault of a "bad candidate" (i.e., McCain). I've got news. He did far better than any Republican had any business doing, when you consider that they've run the country into a very deep ditch. This wasn't a rejection of McCain; it was a rejection of right-wing Republicans. The sooner they recognize that and adapt, the sooner they'll be viable again.

My prediction is that Sarah Palin will be the new Moses of the Republican Party, leading them even deeper into the religious fringes of their "base." And she's about to lead them into the wilderness for the next 40 years.

j