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    Quote Originally Posted by Dicestone View Post
    I didn't vote for Obama, but lets give him a chance. Half the country wanted Bush to fail from the start. If we do this again we might be in worst shape by the time 2012 comes around. Strength comes by all pulling in the same direction. Just a thought DS
    Unfortunately, I have to want Obama to fail. Most of the things he has promised and the things he says he will do are in my opinion the worst possible courses to take. Therefore the way I see it his complete and utter failure at his every action would mean that this country is taking the best and most proper course to a better future.

    As far as working together and all going the same direction... That's what Lemmings do too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtim View Post
    As far as working together and all going the same direction... That's what Lemmings do too.
    Need to check your facts Tim. Whilst there is partial truth in what you say, Lemmings no more go in the same direction than a heard of buffalo. However I believe you were insinuating (correct me if I am wrong) that Lemmings walk together on mass towards there death (or towards some other perilous situation worse than they were in before). Which they don't.

    Unless you are talking about the green-haired, blue-coated fictional variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtim View Post
    Unfortunately, I have to want Obama to fail. Most of the things he has promised and the things he says he will do are in my opinion the worst possible courses to take. Therefore the way I see it his complete and utter failure at his every action would mean that this country is taking the best and most proper course to a better future.

    As far as working together and all going the same direction... That's what Lemmings do too.
    Well, if you saw Boner's op-ed in the Washington Post this morning, you're going to get your wish. According the the top-ranked Republican in the House, the culture wars will continue and we absolutely cannot count on them to help us solve our problems.

    Happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtim View Post
    Unfortunately, I have to want Obama to fail. Most of the things he has promised and the things he says he will do are in my opinion the worst possible courses to take. Therefore the way I see it his complete and utter failure at his every action would mean that this country is taking the best and most proper course to a better future.

    As far as working together and all going the same direction... That's what Lemmings do too.
    Wow somehow I missed this jem. That is one of the most unpatriotic, inhuman statements I have witnessed yet. Someone would rather see their fellow countrymen suffer, and maybe die, just to prove a point. Boy that is special.

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    Jim of course its going to continue the rabid right needs a bogeyman, they had the Soviets, Terrorist, Gays, Socialist (even when they aren't), if they don't have one they'll invent one. I think they find fear sort of titillating in their sexually repressed world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    Jim of course its going to continue the rabid right needs a bogeyman, they had the Soviets, Terrorist, Gays, Socialist (even when they aren't), if they don't have one they'll invent one. I think they find fear sort of titillating in their sexually repressed world.
    Well, then, it's very sad. If the Republicans maintain that view, they're going to be marginalized in ways they can't even imagine. They may even fail to survive.

    Right now, they're in denial. They're doing everything in their power to claim that their loss was not a referendum on them, but the fault of a "bad candidate" (i.e., McCain). I've got news. He did far better than any Republican had any business doing, when you consider that they've run the country into a very deep ditch. This wasn't a rejection of McCain; it was a rejection of right-wing Republicans. The sooner they recognize that and adapt, the sooner they'll be viable again.

    My prediction is that Sarah Palin will be the new Moses of the Republican Party, leading them even deeper into the religious fringes of their "base." And she's about to lead them into the wilderness for the next 40 years.

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    Couldn't agree with you more. If McCain had of stuck to his guns instead of going to bed with the christian right and had of appointed a moderate like Rudy Giuliani, he would have lost the religious radical right but would have been far more palatable to the moderates, and may have given Obama a run for his money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    Wow somehow I missed this jem. That is one of the most unpatriotic, inhuman statements I have witnessed yet. Someone would rather see their fellow countrymen suffer, and maybe die, just to prove a point. Boy that is special.
    No it's not. All Tim is saying is that the policies which Obama has said he would like to enact go against the things that Tim wants. For Obama to not enact these policies (failure) is to essentially give Tim what he wants. I don't see how that's unpatriotic at all. Since when does patriotism mean blind allegiance to whatever leader the masses put in place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick Orange View Post
    No it's not. All Tim is saying is that the policies which Obama has said he would like to enact go against the things that Tim wants. For Obama to not enact these policies (failure) is to essentially give Tim what he wants. I don't see how that's unpatriotic at all. Since when does patriotism mean blind allegiance to whatever leader the masses put in place?
    Actually, we're just completing eight years of the party in power saying just that. Ann Coulter even called it treason.

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    Failure would mean deeper financial hardship for your fellow countrymen, failure internationally would mean more wars that will kill US soldiers, maybe some attacks on the US would top it off for you all. Get real that's what the statement says, failure will have consequences, it's not a game, this isn't monday night mindless football. Maybe the right should grow up and start practicing what their bible preaches.

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