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    Wow, what a bunch of lunatics. I guess that if they come and take your dog while you're away, you can sue them for all sorts of things (like trespassing, theft, etc.) I remember when I was a child we had a dog. It wasnt allowed into the house!

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    That is total nonsense. My yellow lab loves it outside. I have to force her to come in.

    By the way, being a non-profit or not for profit does not mean they cannot make money or pay their employees. Trust me on this. My wife and I both work for a non-profit organization and we get paid.

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    good luck dealing with the nut jobs man.


    (wow my post seems really short after all of your guyses)

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    There ae reasons that there are extremely few rescues I support.

    Of course most of them think I am the spawn of satan for daring to breed dogs.

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    Some of the most expensive and valuable dogs spend nearly their entire lives outdoors (Alaskan sled-dogs). Shelter, food, and water do nicely.

    Have your lawyer mention that their "to the satisfaction of (the rescue)" is unreasonable and much too vague. Next thing they will insist on is steaks at every meal.

    I would advise them to not step on my property without a policeman and a warrant.

    Good luck.
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    It is a civil contract and does not give them the right to set foot on your property.

    I would advise them that you will defend you property against trespassers.

    Take out a restraining order with the court.

    Contact the media.

    Let your neighbors know what is going on.

    Tell the rescue twits that you have placed your house under video surveillance.

    File a complaint with the AG's office.

    Get the names of the people involved and take out restraining orders against them individually.

    These people are obviously extremists who have forgotten the actual purpose of the breed - just like the idiots who have inbred the Alsatians/German Shepherds to the point that they stand on the lower part of their back legs (for a sleek look), rendering the dog unfit to actual work as intended.

    I have a Samoyed (sitting next to me after a marathon sock-chewing session) and I am glad that the breed is strictly controlled and that most of the Sammie owners I know are sane...many even hook the dogs to sleds during the winter so the dogs can pull and have fun...imagine...the dog doing what it was bred for!!!!

    These nut cases sound like they are one step short of being the freaks from PETA - they love animals so much, the kill them rather than have them be pets or on farms.

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    I have looked at the application on the website for this group - it specifically asks where the dog will be while you are away during the day and states that they do interviews and visit the home prior to giving you a dog. Did you tell them in the application that the dogs would be outside part of the day? Did they ask during the interview? If you have a securely fenced yard, I do not see a problem with the dig spending time outside if the weather permits. An alternative is a radio-signal controlled pet door, triggered by a transmitter on the dog's collar. The dog approaches the door and the pet door unlocks and he can push it open to go in or out...otherwise, it is locked in place.

    Also, the Golden Retriever Club of America has a standing committee on Rescue - and nothing on their page indicates that the dogs cannot be left outside while you are at work. It states that the dog is not good as an outside dog, which to me means it is never in the house.

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    I would contact them and file a complaint of harassment.

    Also, as for the second dog nipping at your daughter...did they mention that to you as a behavior issue with this specific dog? If not, then perhaps they have been negligent. I'm sure a lawyer would think so.

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    I have form the opinion that Colorado has a powerful lobby of dog ignoramusi. The idea that they have a complete pitbull ban in the city and county of Denver is enough but now they profess to know what is best for a well cared for golden retriever? I will give up my dog when they pry my cold dead fingers from off his collar.

    I would simply ignore them but you might try a more mature defense by getting a petition signed by as many "neighbors" as possible and present it to some elected official. I'd sign it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedog View Post
    I have form the opinion that Colorado has a powerful lobby of dog ignoramusi. The idea that they have a complete pitbull ban in the city and county of Denver is enough but now they profess to know what is best for a well cared for golden retriever? I will give up my dog when they pry my cold dead fingers from off his collar.

    I would simply ignore them but you might try a more mature defense by getting a petition signed by as many "neighbors" as possible and present it to some elected official. I'd sign it for you.

    Brad
    Denver is not representative of all of Colorado any more than NYC is of New York state. Irresponsible owners, gang members, and media hype led to the pit ban. We have no shortage of holier-than-thou types either...but then that seems to be a growing trend in the US, where Group A knows better than Group B, who knows better than Group A. The sane people are caught in the middle. These people are used to bullying people to get their way and cannot stand it when other stand up to them...it prevents them from feeling superior (we all know these types of people - they are everywhere - churches, city halls, social organizations, schools, business offices).

    As Brad mentioned, get statements from neighbors, from your vet, ensure you have all the documents related to the placement and then go on the offensive - they are not used to that, as they expect everyone to kowtow to them because they play the "we rescue animals" card...

    As for the Samoyeds (mine was just running around with a sock...and here I spend good money on chew toys...)...anyway, the breeder I got mine from also is involved in rescue...she lives out in the country and the dogs have a barn and a small field to run around in...she put in special fencing to keep them in (Sammies can jump pretty high)...and they go nuts when they are outside - running, playing, barking at the chickens, chasing each other. I have even considered moving out to the sticks so mine can have a nice area to run in, without any traffic.

    As someone said, look at your dog...if he is happy, you can't do any better. There is a prehistoric contract between dogs and man - we care for them and they protect us and give us unquestioned love. When someone abuses a dog, beyond the cruelty, they are betraying millennia of trust and you can see it in their eyes. It is also abuse to place an animal with a loving family and then take it away becasue of some self-righteous need for control or a warped mentality that treats the dog as a human (making the dog neurotic).

    Go after them with both barrels. If it doesn't work out, let me know and we can talk about Sammies.

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    I got roped into doing the rescue thing once, won't ever happen again. I was taking care of some white german shepherds and met to many wacko's doing it. Some are good organizations but not many. And like said above the rescues have the dog's because there are people out there who do not deserve a good dog and are to irresponsible to handle one, and are very jaded at some people. I see all the time people living in little apartment's with Shepherds, Rotties, even one Great Dane, that are lucky to get walked around the apartment complex once a week and think that the dog's have a great life stuck in the little apartments. I feel so sorry for those dogs.

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