Thread: Are all Women Crazy?

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Stephen

Originally Posted by kilowattkid

O.K. - is 5 different shampoos really necessary?

Put it another way. Are five different razors necessary?

(More like minimum.)

Originally Posted by AlanII

Put it another way. Are five different razors necessary?

(More like minimum.)

Well, yeah.

With all those shampoos, lotions, hair sprays and such, where am I supposed to put all my aftershaves, soaps and badger brushes.

Originally Posted by JMS

Well zib, you asked for it! I was waiting for some lady on the forum to lay into you like yesshedoes did, and rightfully so!

In speaking so poorly about the"love of your life", and complaining so openly about her, you expose your lack of love for her, and your lack of judgement! these sorts of problems should be kept between you and her and should be worked out accordingly! in short, stop complaining, you chose her, now, learn to love her or let her go and not get another girlfriend until you are willing to make the comitment necessary to learn to love!

First of all Mark, Zib doesn't deserves to be 'laid into' for anything he said here. I don't even think he was 'laid into' in the least bit either.

Second- who are you to tell this man that he doesn't love this woman??? You have NO IDEA what his (or anyone else's) situation really is on a day to day basis. He can post about his problems wherever he wants to. THAT is his choice. It doesn't display any lack of love. Maybe on the other hand you've never experienced love so can't speak personally about the struggles that come along with it. Get rid of that holier than thou attitude and then maybe your contribution to this thread can be taken a little more seriously.

EDIT: Not a personal attack here- I like Mark, I really do. Just think that his post was way off.

Originally Posted by Philadelph

First of all Mark, Zib doesn't deserves to be 'laid into' for anything he said here. I don't even think he was 'laid into' in the least bit either.

Second- who are you to tell this man that he doesn't love this woman??? You have NO IDEA what his (or anyone else's) situation really is on a day to day basis. He can post about his problems wherever he wants to. THAT is his choice. It doesn't display any lack of love. Maybe on the other hand you've never experienced love so can't speak personally about the struggles that come along with it. Get rid of that holier than thou attitude and then maybe your contribution to this thread can be taken a little more seriously.

EDIT: Not a personal attack here- I like Mark, I really do. Just think that his post was way off.

How many hail mary's must I say to be absolved of the sin of speaking my mind Alex?

Originally Posted by JMS

How many hail mary's must I say to be absolved of the sin of speaking my mind Alex?

13 'hail sciences' Mark. That's all. I'll start you off...

"Hail science, full of grace, the proof is with you..."

Originally Posted by Philadelph

13 'hail sciences' Mark. That's all. I'll start you off...

"Hail science, full of grace, the proof is with you..."

Originally Posted by kilowattkid

O.K. - is 5 different shampoos really necessary?

YAY, we're gonna have fun today! (And thanks for the kind words, guys, I appreciate them!)

Yes, and here are their respective functions:

1. Is for basic hair washing
2. Is to wash that last man right outta our hair (the one I mentioned in my 1st post on this thread.)A
3. Is because it smelled really wonderful at the store so we bought it
4. Is our travel shampoo (this would be the tiny bottle)
5. Is the one we know you love the way it smells so we save it for those special times!



Which, of course, brings up a question from me! Are...

10 shaving soaps
9 razors
8 stones
7 after-shaves
6 versions of Thayer's
5 different diamond pastes
4 hones
3 strops
2 barber's towels
...and one basin chock full 'o hot water all necessary?

But I already know the answer to that one, which is hell yeah!

Originally Posted by YesSheDoes!

Now for the serious, constructive advice...

Guys, when you see your girlfriend or wife crying, the BEST thing to do at that point is to go over to her slowly, wrap her gently in her arms, and hold her. You don't have to say a word...

In fact, if you don't know what we're crying about, it's probably best that you DON'T say anything.

Once we feel physically and emotionally loved and supported by you holding us, we will then (usually) spill our guts about what's wrong.

If you encounter any resistance as you're coming over to put your arms around us, then stop immediately. Just stand there and put a very sympathetic look on your face.

The resistance means...

1. You did something bad.
2. You failed to do something...and that's bad
3. She THINKS #1 or #2, even if it is not true.

IMPORTANT: After you've listened to her (which is what she wants you to do), and you start talking, do what the guy suggests in the "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus" book (which I highly recommend, since it is a fair book--tells men what they need to know about women, AND tells women what we need to know about men.)

What does the book say?

It says that when your woman is crying, and she starts telling you all her problems and why she is upset, the #1 most important thing for you to do is LISTEN and empathize with her. (Assuming the problems are not things that are your fault.)

What she does NOT want at that point is a solution to the problem. Unfortunately, that's exactly what most men are hard-wired to produce: solutions. You are natural problem-solvers, and most of the time that's great.

Another man would be glad you gave him a solution, right?

But when your woman is crying and upset, what she wants and needs MOST at that point is to be heard and feel supported. The solutions can come later.

Here's an example of how to do the right thing:

YOUR WIFE: "I'm so upset because today at work my boss told me not to ever use the company email to send a quick note to my best friend! And he was so mean about it..." (breaks down into tears.)

YOU: "Wow, I can't believe he did that, that was really cruel." (Give her a hug.) "They shouldn't treat you like that--you deserve better. And besides, it only takes, what...a minute?...to send your friend a quick note. I don't see why it's any big deal."

HER: (Smiles up at you through her tears) "Thanks, honey, that makes me feel better!" (She stops crying and then has good feelings towards YOU!)

Here's an example of how to do the WRONG thing:

YOUR WIFE: "I'm so upset because today at work my boss told me not to ever use the company email to send a quick note to my best friend! And he was so mean about it..." (breaks down into tears.)

YOU: "Well, here's what you do, just go to the XYZ site and download their free demo (scrambler/ghost thing)--it cloaks your ISP so your boss and IT people won't know what you're doing. Here, sit down at my computer and I'll show you how it works, since--"

HER: "Have you been listening to a WORD I've been saying???" (Now it's worse--she's gone from straight-up upset to upset and mad--and the mad is at YOU because from her point of view, you don't get it.

On another note, would it kill anyone reading this to give me a "thanks?" I got none right now. Help a gal out, OK?

That's pretty good. Our marriage counselor told us that men always want to be a fixer. If you tell me a problem, I immediately start thinking of a solution. Whereas women aren't really looking for that when they tell you a problem. That's why Bill "I feel your pain" Clinton was so popular with the ladies.

I can't believe this thread has gone on for so long. There are two answers, both covered above.

1. yes, they are crazy.
2. is she hot?

But seriously, I have come to the conclusion they aren't crazy, we are just very different creatures divided by a common species. We really see the world different than they do, and it work best when they try to see that we are trying to deal with real problems and solve them, and we try to address the emotional side of things even if they don't bear on the issues. But it's an ongoing struggle for both sides to understand the other. Having had two daughters has opened my eyes - the differences between men and women start from the beginning - it's not societal programming.

My one piece of unsolicited advice - if there is a major incompatibility in your relationship, don't drag it out - those get worse not better, and it's harder to break it off the longer you wait. If you just fight like hell but agree on the important things (money sex children) then it's ok.