Thread: Is this Americas future?

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

I know this is a tad off topic, but somehow I don't think waterboarding khalid sheikh mohammed for 30 seconds to get information he wouldn't otherwise give up is torture of an innocent person!

Who made me judge? Nobody. It just seems that way to me

The problem is that it isn't jus sheikh mohammed, and it's not just 30 seconds.

The problem is that it's also people who just happen to know the 'wrong' people. People have been abducted by the CIA and transferred to guantanamo bay. They have been tortured, and held without trial or acusation.

There was a person from germany who was abducted to guantanamo, and then kicked out after a year without trial or apology, but only a warning to keep his mouth shut about what happened to him inside.
Those things are inexcusable.

Look, things like that are forbidden by the constitution. So the government either has to amend the constitution to allow torture, or make sure they don't do it.

And this quote has been thrown in my face so often that I am glad I can throw it back:

Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety