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    Well they are horrible enough to win the contest.. thats true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LX_Emergency View Post
    Nope, not in my view. Ok before I go on I should mention that I'm a bit of a singer. So I know (by ear) whether someone can actually sing or not.:
    Stop right there

    You fall into the trap like so many others

    Lordi's act
    a) was original. you definitely remembered it come voting time
    b) had good music to it.
    c) had less than good singer's quality.

    The total act was good. And all in all much better than the rest of the contestants imo.
    It's not just the quality of the singer's voice that gets rated. It's the entire act.

    Btw you mention that you are a bit of a singer. The people who sign up for idols or the X factor say the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Lordi's act
    a) was original. you definitely remembered it come voting time
    b) had good music to it.
    c) had less than good singer's quality.
    really? I think Mr. Lordi is actually a decent singer. not everyone agrees with what he does stylistically, but he hits notes well (even the falsetto stuff) and is usually on pitch, which is how I would define a good singer.

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    Lordi is by far the most sissy music I listen to. most of the stuff I like is the most horrifying, blackest metal that Scandinavia has to offer, and so I LIKE the "cookie monster" vocals. (nerdy fun fact: when executing a deathmetal scream/growl correctly, you are not actually using your vocal cords at all (which is why a good metal singer can scream for hours and never lose their voice), it is mechanically more similar to burping than it is to singing, although the diaphragm mechanics are the same) As such, I tend to think Mr. Lordi's singing is pretty melodic, and sounds good in a hair metal sort of way. (compared to, say, Tom Araya, he's practically an opera singer...)

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    My problem with Lordi's vocals is that they are neither fish nor meat (translated saying).

    I like powerful male vocals ala Manowar or Rammstein. Powerful yet clear
    And I like death grunt vocals, as long as the music itself is melodic. Examples are early tristania and sirenia.

    But Lordi is neither. The singer tries to grunt clear lyrics. I know nothing about music so I hope my explanation makes sense. It's not that his technique / tones are bad. It's just that his style of singing doesn't appeal to me, and I thought it didn't really fit song. Imo he should have chosen one or the other.
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    I agree that Lordi's song would have sounded better minus the falsetto stuff and plus some proper deathvocals a la Dimmu Borgir or Arch Enemy. maybe someone has done a cover? I'll have to look for one when I get out from behind this firewall and can get to youtube.

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    On a more lighthearted note, this was another entry from the same year that Lordi won.

    Needless to say they were wrong....

    YouTube - Eurovision 2006 Final 14 Lithuania * We Are The Winners *

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    most of the stuff I like is the most horrifying, blackest metal that Scandinavia has to offer, and so I LIKE the "cookie monster" vocals.
    Jockeys, have you ever heard about a band called Master's Hammer?

    Some say, their albums Ritual and Jilemnicky Okultista are the best black metal works ever...

    Song "Geniove" / album Ritual: (not quite office safe)
    YouTube - Master's Hammer - Géniové

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    Jockeys, have you ever heard about a band called Master's Hammer?

    Some say, their albums Ritual and Jilemnicky Okultista are the best black metal works ever...

    Song "Geniove" / album Ritual: (not quite office safe)
    very interesting, I hadn't heard of them (they tend to only play modern black metal on xm42). even more interesting still that he performs, almost exactly correctly, the prelude to the Black Mass.

    myself, I generally enjoy some of the more modern black metal, such as this: (great symphonic accompaniment)
    YouTube - Dimmu Borgir - The Serpentine Offering

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    very interesting, I hadn't heard of them (they tend to only play modern black metal on xm42). even more interesting still that he performs, almost exactly correctly, the prelude to the Black Mass.
    The band is long gone, they were quite famous among European black metal fans in early 1990s. They were dedicated followers of LaVey - hence the Black Mass. Try to look them up, you will not be disappointed. Btw. that video was broadcast by the Czech public television, in chart shows for teenagers. Can you imagine that happening in the US?

    Here is another sample - "Ja mizerii osudu jsem pronasledovan" (I am chased by destiny misery) from "Jilemnicky Okultista" ([town of]Jilemnice Okultist).

    YouTube - Master's Hammer - Já Mizérii Osudu Jsem Pronásledován...
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    ah, that makes sense. looks like the pedestal under their "altar" was trapezoidal, which is unique to lavey iirc
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