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    Vitandi syslight's Avatar
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    Ah, but there is such sadness in his humor

    H.R. 1388:
    Includes among needs to be met under the NCCC (National Civilian Community Corps) program, disaster relief, infrastructure improvement, environmental and energy conservation, and urban and rural development.

    Requires states to develop comprehensive plans for volunteer and paid service by Baby Boomers and older adults.
    I had thought that this was just for the youth but it looks like they want an old-timers program as well...

    "You want that social security check and you medicare? Well then march on down to the NCCC and do your public duty..." slave away until you die of exhaustion! Hooray!

    i also like amendment 11:
    11. H.AMDT.48 to H.R.1388 Amendment to create a National Service Reserve Corps and requires an annual service requirement of at least 10 hours and/or annual training. A member of the National Service Reserve Corps is one who has completed a term of national service, fulfilled training, and will respond to national disasters and other emergencies. These individuals will be listed in a national database for the ease of immediate deployment in case of emergency.
    Sponsor: Rep Titus, Dina [NV-3] (introduced 3/18/2009) Cosponsors (None)
    Latest Major Action: 3/18/2009 House amendment agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Titus amendment (A011) Agreed to by recorded vote: 339 - 93 (Roll no. 138).
    once you serve they will keep tabs on you... maybe some more video surveillance or an RF id chip in each volunteer!
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    "...the legislation could cost up to $6 billion over five years and would create 175,000 "new service opportunities" under AmeriCorps."
    In other words, to create those 175,000 "new service opportunities," $6 billion will be re-distributed, thus destroying countless more opportunities elsewhere. Jobs, services, products that will never be realized.

    Progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nun2sharp View Post
    Its not so hard. C'mom and say it with me. Ein Volk, Ein Furher, Ein Riech!
    It would have been more impressive without the spelling mistakes. but I get your point
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    During and right after the elections, I was accused of being a blind Obama fan, who would always defend whatever he was doing. Those who've known me for a while know that this is not true.

    But now he has finally done something that gives me the opportunity to prove this in public
    This is a ridiculous bill (mandatory volunteer service? WTF!?) and I'd fight it every step of the way.

    I am all in favor of people doing volunteer work, but making it mandatory is a) missing the point, and b) illegal imo. Now all they need is cirsp uniforms and a powerful insignia.
    This is even worse than the mandatory pledge of allegiance.
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    The article is mis-representing some things:

    12. H.AMDT.49 to H.R.1388 The amendments prohibits organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.
    This is from the article:
    Moreover, an amendment to the bill introduced by Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., one of the bill's 37 co-sponsors in the House, appears to severely restrict the First Amendment by prohibiting the youth participating in the program from attempting to influence legislation, organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts or strikes.
    No mention is made of individual rights in the amendment, just those of the organization. That allows people involved with the organizations to protest or do any of the things they want that are "prohibited" as long as they are acting independently.


    Moreover, the so called Congressional Commission On Civic Service is tasked with discovery not action.

    Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    Not to say that that isn't an eyebrow raising concept.

    This is relevant reading on the subject:

    Being Volunteered? The Impact of Social Participation and Pro-Social Attitudes on Volunteering1

    I think if it came to pass that an actual bill was put forth requiring service of any group of individuals, there would be hell to pay and a lot more attention payed too. For now, its good to know who's names are attached to this thing.

    I mostly see shoddy internet journalism here. I am not really worried about this particular bill since it doesn't introduce mandates; however, I will keep my eyes peeled for an opportunity to volunteer for a little civil disobedience.

    -Rob

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