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    As the saying goes:

    "If they take away our guns can we use swords?"

    In point of fact I remember reading an article about a gang of Australians who were using swords because guns are outlawed.

    Instead of drive by shootings. You have a guy with a crossbow shooting at your house.

    At least it is harder to conceal a 4' piece of metal.

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    I think the bottom line to all this is that the American people do not want to be subserviant to Government, theirs or anyone elses.
    I believe most peoples of the world are 'ruled absolutely' by their governments, even though some claim to be democratic.
    I congratulate the US citizens for maintaining some freedoms.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtim View Post
    No, it claims that a free state needs a well trained militia therefore the people need guns and the government can't take them away. It doesn't say that this "militia" or body of citizens is ever needed or what it might be needed for just that it must have access to guns to be well trained.





    I personally feel that this is more of a reflection on the "free state" bit in the second amendment, or rather how far we have come from truly being one, than a reflection on the need for a militia.



    I just don't see how a more advanced weapon makes it any less needed that the people be well trained with it in order to defend their free state? If anything I'd this the reverse would be true.




    It actually is not all encompassing in any way. It is actually just a list of the freedoms the founders saw as so critical that thought they should be spelled out so the government could not claim ignorance if it tried to trample them. This view is completely correct as all freedom not signed away specifically in the constitution were to be reserved by the people but our government ignores that completely. Proving the need for the second amendment beyond a shadow of a doubt.



    In no way do these things violate free speech as they are intended to deliberately harm another person. It is not speech made illegal but using words as a deliberate weapon that is illegal.




    These are direct violations of our second amendment rights. There is no greater risk to anyone from my gun because my location is now inside a school than there was outside of it. Approved by the Supreme court or not these clauses have never made any sense and should be faught or done away with whenever they are encountered.

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    We are a wiley bunch over here aren't we. This country has been "despising the man" since the Red Coats came over to beat us back in line.

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    I honestly can see no reason to outlaw firearms anywhere (except Bars and Banks), if you can legally carry one place why not another?????
    Glen Im with ya on the bar thing, but curious to why you agree on us not being able to carry in the bank. I live in a concealed carry state and hold a Missouri CCW, I have to disarm before I go into the bank, doesnt make sense to me.

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    Im not with the National Pk thing either ! Im not worried about bear in Missouri, it's the Perverts I see on the news here hiding in the bushes propositioning you for sex Im worried about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike257 View Post
    it's the Perverts I see on the news here hiding in the bushes propositioning you for sex Im worried about.
    ....................ibtl

    ladies and gentlemen, it's been a great thread; thank you and good night
    Last edited by Bill S; 05-22-2009 at 04:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    it's not about fear, it's about preparedness. see previous comments about owning fire extinguishers.
    Kinda like carrying a spare tire in your car, you might not ever need it but it's nice to know you have one when you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlewedge View Post
    We are a wiley bunch over here aren't we. This country has been "despising the man" since the Red Coats came over to beat us back in line.

    The only mistake you made was you should have chopped his head off for us. We might have such freedom too then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike257 View Post
    Kinda like carrying a spare tire in your car, you might not ever need it but it's nice to know you have one when you do.
    absolutely. i hope i never need to use my spare tire, my handgun, or my fire extinguishers.

    but i'm glad they're there.

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    The only spare things we have in the UK are in our paliament, but they are completly useless.

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