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06-04-2009, 03:34 PM #1
How far will we let it go?
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06-04-2009, 04:11 PM #2
I heard this story on Roger Hedgec0cks show before he went national. Rather disgusting display of contempt and misuse of the power "we the people" put into our governments hands.
EDIT: someone really needs to tweak the profanity filters.
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06-04-2009, 04:50 PM #3
I don't know, Tim.
I wonder if there would have been any trouble if they had instead been worshiping a fight on tv or a grill in the backyard?
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06-04-2009, 04:58 PM #4
That is a prime example of totalitarianism IMO and the county officials responsible for the travesty will be soundly defeated in court I think ..... I hope. Reminiscent of the famous quote;
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
–Pastor Martin NiemöllerBe careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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06-04-2009, 05:16 PM #5
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Thanked: 1262When I read about this last week, from what i remember, this all stemmed from neighbors calling and complaining to the city due to parking problems this was causing....
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06-04-2009, 05:25 PM #6
I live in San Diego County. My first residence in San Diego was on Florida and University. Right across the street is an adult book store. "F Street Book Store" is the name. They have a lot for parking and it holds about 6 cars. Parking was a nightmare on Florida St. Especially Friday and Saturday nights all due to the book store. Many people called to complain about the problem and not once did I ever see officials come out to talk to the people who lived on that street or the book store. I lived there 13 years.
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06-04-2009, 05:53 PM #7
Is it just a few county officials that "overreacted", is it our democracy that is slowly decaying? The fish always stinks from the head downwards... and it takes quite a bit of effort to get a fresh one.
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06-04-2009, 07:22 PM #8
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06-04-2009, 05:24 PM #9
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06-04-2009, 11:10 PM #10
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No, the world is not going to hell in a hand basket. Anyone who reads this news story and seriously thinks that the county government of San Diego is trying to outlaw bible study is schmokin' crack.
Sorry, I think that the media, the homeowner's lawyer, and the talk radio world is making hay over what will probably turn out to be a load of BS.
Honestly, if you have any sort of gathering at your home that brings in 10 to 15 cars on a regular basis, you're neighbors are likely to complain, and with good cause. The fact of the matter is that if they'd been having a gay-Women-of-color-chili-cook-off every thursday with that many cars, the county would have invoked the same code. The county employee may have been trying to determine the religious nature of the gathering for various reasons. I would suggest that they overstepped their bounds when they did, though. Since none of us were there, we'll likely never know.
I have to say that I think sometimes the religious right walks around with a chip on their shoulder over issues like this. See how no one was pulled from their homes and placed into a concentration camp over this? No one was lynched, no one was even forced to pay a fine? Yeah, they hired a lawyer, but I'll bet all they really had to do was call their local TV station and local elected official and the problem went away. Notice too how no atheists came swarming to the defense of the county government over this issue? I'm sorry, but getting a citation over a use permit based on neighbors complaints does not equal persecution. They were not singled out because they were christians. Contrast this to the fact that here in the US, seven state constitutions officially include religious tests that would effectively prevent atheists from holding public office, and in some cases being a juror/witness. No, they are no longer enforced, but it sure seems a bit discriminatory that they haven't been removed.Last edited by joesixpack; 06-04-2009 at 11:26 PM.