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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    We have serial killers here in Canada too, but they don't get 'the chair'. Instead they get studied and counseled to the great financial relief of the taxpayer, because we all know that the appeal process for death penalty inmates is extremely prohibitive. We've gotten so good at it now that such individuals have actually said that they hope they are never again released into society because they know they will kill again. Science is the answer, not vengeance.
    I find it extremely hard to believe that this works, even in a minority of cases. I didn't watch the video yet, but I can guarantee you that even a video (regardless of what it portrays) will not be enough to convince me. I'm not sure anybody (canadian or otherwise) can guarantee with certainty that Ted Bundy + "therapy"/"counseling" + more jail time = less desire to slaughter people.

    If there's a book on this with reliable sources I'll read it.

    EDIT: Call me old fashioned, but I'm with Jimmy on this one. Some people need to fry.

    EDIT EDIT: I watched the video and my suspicions are substantiated. There are too many variables to consider for counseling to be a viable option for serial killers. Sure it may work for some, but you can't just implement these measures under the assumption that it will work for everybody.
    Last edited by Oglethorpe; 07-22-2009 at 03:04 AM.

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