Thread: Who do you "pray" to?

I must point out that in the Koran that Jesus is a prophet and not the son of God. This is a major point, that I think separates the two religions. This is why I split the two.

GOD

Originally Posted by crushnbugs

GOD

I think that is an old testament smiting is it not?

Originally Posted by crushnbugs

GOD

Must be Mars.

While I see where you're coming from on this regarding being the "same God", to use your analogy

Someone may have a vague idea that I exist, and know some of the things that I've done, but otherwise know nothing about me. Perhaps, knowing nothing about me they make up a name that is not mine, and guess at what my attributes are based on what they can see. That is no guaruntee that another persons image of me is actually the same as who I am.

So while someone else may worship the "same God" it doesn't mean that they know what they are doing.

I do believe, correct me if I am wrong, that Allah is simply Arabic for God, not a unique term to Muslims. My understanding is that many Arabic Christians still refer to God as Allah, just as Germans would refer to Gott, etc.

Originally Posted by GregJDS

Ok if there is a god , which i think there is just because the persona that all living beings have seems to be higher or more valuable than the material things like rocks and other non personality stuff. And if the persona is higher and more valuable than earth,wind,fire,water then if there is a sumpreme being it would make sense that supreme being has a persona rather than being de-valued and like a rock or something.
So if that is true then anyone in perception of the supreme personality is perceiving the same personality. Differnt names and different perceptions by the person using that name make no difference to the person themsevles. For example a guy could have a nickname at work and all his work collegues would have a certain perception of him, then at home he is just simply his name. Then he could have a position in a group where he has another title he is called by. Thats one person with three different titles they are called on by, and each set of people who use the different titles all have their own perception of him, and even within the groups each individual has their own perception of him.
Does this make any difference to that person themselves? no its still the same persona.

Originally Posted by bbshriver

I do believe, correct me if I am wrong, that Allah is simply Arabic for God, not a unique term to Muslims. My understanding is that many Arabic Christians still refer to God as Allah, just as Germans would refer to Gott, etc.

I'm Not a Theologian so I'll send you back to this video of someone who was born and raised muslim but accepted Christ and is now a professor at Liberty Univ. as well as a Pastor and Public speaker on this subject.

Originally Posted by bbshriver

Someone may have a vague idea that I exist, and know some of the things that I've done, but otherwise know nothing about me. Perhaps, knowing nothing about me they make up a name that is not mine.

Rightm but here in the material world everyone has so much invested in material things like names, they are important, but in the spiritual world everything is fused to everything else, names are not so important, wheras here in the material world we have all sorts of nonsense faught over because of caring about these names and other material things.
(names are material things because they exist within the minds of people as little memory storage bits)

"Whats in a name?"

The name is not so important, its a bit like If a sign reads "Dager Ahoad!!! Falling Raks" , As long as you get the basic message and act according to the information its not so important if the message is not clear. It is better to have the message clear, but if not at least get the jist of the message. Some people will stand ther arguing foolsihly about the bad grammer on the sign and who is responsible, life tends to hit these people in the head with a falling rak.

Originally Posted by ndw76

You have to remember that just because a religion says you should not kill does not mean the followers do not kill. There are quite a few Buddhists who kill. Thai jails are full of them. There are also a huge gang of them here who like to pretend to be police and extort bribes from people.

I would argue that they would not be true Buddhists then, neither would Christains who did the same.

The groups I mentioned, the Amish, Brethren, Mennonites, Hutterites and Quakers were the ones being killed by other Christians during the reformation.

Tony