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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBaron View Post
    I agree with this line of thinking, I believe that mother nature is self correcting. When we are killing the environment we are not destroying ALL life on earth (to think we have that much power my be a bit arrogant). All we are doing is destroying the environment we are able to survive in. In the grand scheme of things, the damage that is our race, is probably no more than the equivalent of a boil on mother nature's ass that can be lanced at any time.

    Eventually we or mother nature will probably wipe us out but life will find a way to press on and maybe evolve into something better.

    Dinosaurs were once top of the food chain, I'm sure their methane gas emissions where similar to a herd of cows and whether their asses cause their own global warming , mother nature wiped em out, or something from the heavens came down like the finger of God. Anyway you slice it, they are all fossils now and we live on the same planet they did.

    So unless we find some way to colonize and spread to other planets like the cancer that we are, my best guess is not a hopeful one for the human race over all.
    This is called Malthusian Population Theory- that a population is subject to checks and balances. Well- we got rid of massive wars (the crusades: "John you're my first born, you get my land! James, you're my second born, go fight in the Crusades and die for your country!", WWI and WWII were over 50 years ago), healthcare has extended our age 4 or 5 fold, there's no shortage of food, but let me say this.

    Even if we find a way to convert carbon atoms into food (ie not have to grow it), actually let me go further, even if we find a way to change random matter into necessary organic matter, There will be a point where the entire mass of the earth has been consumed and used in human tissue. Obviously, we will die out before then, but to go to the very extreme of things- our growth rate is UNSUSTAINABLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaos View Post
    even if we find a way to change random matter into necessary organic matter, There will be a point where the entire mass of the earth has been consumed and used in human tissue. Obviously, we will die out before then, but to go to the very extreme of things- our growth rate is UNSUSTAINABLE.
    What does it matter? We will be dead long before the unsustainability reaches critical mass. And a dead man is dead, no matter how he got that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaos View Post
    Even if we find a way to convert carbon atoms into food
    We can. Just figure out how to reverse my 'food-into-carbon-atoms' bar-b-que technique.



    Couldn't resist - sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by honedright View Post
    We can. Just figure out how to reverse my 'food-into-carbon-atoms' bar-b-que technique.



    Couldn't resist - sorry
    We have had the greatest minds in the Universe working on this very issue. Australians have long pondered this very thing, and we have a working solution to turning inedible charcoal bbq into food - we call it "Tomato Sauce".....

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    Why all of the doom and gloom?


    Listen-you've got it all wrong. WE'RE WINNING!

    Survival of the fittest? That's us!

    The very fact that we snuff out species just goes to show our superior survival traits. Darwin himself would approve, wouldn't he? Every species we make extint is one less species trying to get our resources, etc. And look at the stats Glenn posted-we're multiplying like crazy. We are the Champions!

    Evolution scientists are also a bit off base- when looking at their "evolutionary trees"



    It isn't about what came from what....

    No sir!

    Think of it more like a playoffs bracket



    Go out, eat a burger, fill up your V8 powered car and rejoice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    We have had the greatest minds in the Universe working on this very issue. Australians have long pondered this very thing, and we have a working solution to turning inedible charcoal bbq into food - we call it "Tomato Sauce".....

    James.

    Thats interesting, I thought you called it "Vegemite"

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    Vegemite is still in development- despite their best efforts it remains unpalatable. Marmite and Bovril show promise though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del1r1um View Post
    What does it matter? We will be dead long before the unsustainability reaches critical mass. And a dead man is dead, no matter how he got that way.
    Actually for some parts of the world, the critical mass will be reached in our generation. Check out the potable water reserves...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Every species we make extint is one less species trying to get our resources,
    Those species are our resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelP View Post
    Actually for some parts of the world, the critical mass will be reached in our generation. Check out the potable water reserves...
    Oh I know that, I meant it very literally that We will be dead long before the unsustainability reaches critical mass (for us).

    And still, once those populations at risk are dead, why would it matter?

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