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thebigspendur What do you think will happen... 10-04-2009, 10:41 PM
crushnbugs Oh come now! The only... 10-04-2009, 11:55 PM
ChrisL I guess I'll be thinking... 10-05-2009, 04:34 AM
JokiJo Yeah but what about the rest... 10-05-2009, 05:10 AM
fritz Well, for one thing, everyone... 10-05-2009, 02:19 PM
ChrisL Don't worry, my friend, the... 10-05-2009, 03:03 PM
commiecat I think we currently spend... 10-05-2009, 03:25 PM
thebigspendur Those were cited as likely... 10-05-2009, 11:44 PM
matt321 Not up to speed on this, but... 10-06-2009, 07:04 PM
honedright What evidence is there that... 10-06-2009, 11:38 PM
GeauxLSU I'm hoping for a revolution... 10-06-2009, 11:53 PM
commiecat The fact that about 15% of... 10-07-2009, 02:27 PM
honedright If 15% are uninsured then 85%... 10-07-2009, 08:10 PM
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PA23-250 Interesting also that people... 10-07-2009, 08:56 PM
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MinniesMate Don't throw out the baby with... 10-07-2009, 09:19 PM
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hoglahoo yes it is - I'm not sure if... 10-07-2009, 09:02 PM
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gregs656 That's what, 60 million... 10-08-2009, 11:18 PM
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MinniesMate I honestly don't know what my... 10-08-2009, 11:31 PM
MinniesMate Actually, the Baucus Bill is... 10-08-2009, 11:41 PM
krisbarger Reform>>>> Must Be!!! If not,... 10-09-2009, 12:35 AM
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59caddy RELAX, don't worry, be... 10-10-2009, 02:58 AM
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Sailor Are they paying (as a form of... 10-08-2009, 10:30 PM
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sparq Health bill would cost $829B,... 10-08-2009, 02:54 AM
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MichaelP I know you are talking about... 10-08-2009, 05:48 AM
Bruno Currently I have no details... 10-08-2009, 11:44 AM
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    Health bill would cost $829B, cover 94 percent - Boston.com

    Medical device tax still part of health care bill - The Boston Globe

    It really looks like a great method to drive even more businesses out of the US...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    Thanks for the link sparq.

    Think about this: This bill will increase the covered from 83% to 96% at a cost of $829,000,000,000. That means the bill will spend $829,000,000,000 to cover 11% of the people that are in the U.S. legally, including those that make up that 11% and are U.S. citizens. That is roughly 39,000,000 people added to the ranks of the insured.

    That means this bill will cost $21,256.41/person to insure over a 10 year period. This doesn't even make sense because that is $2,1256/person/year. There is no way that you can insure a person for $2,000/year. This is the problem with the CBO; their numbers don't work in the real world. It is also the problem with the politicians in Washington. They use misleading numbers to support their side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinniesMate View Post
    There is no way that you can insure a person for $2,000/year. This is the problem with the CBO; their numbers don't work in the real world.
    I know you are talking about the US, but other countries would beg to differ on that judgement

    For what it is worth, my current health insurance package for 2 persons costs 2400 per year (state-run mandatory) + 600 per year (private top up). And why, yes it would even cover the cost of healthcare if I got sick/injured while in the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelP View Post
    I know you are talking about the US, but other countries would beg to differ on that judgement

    For what it is worth, my current health insurance package for 2 persons costs 2400 per year (state-run mandatory) + 600 per year (private top up). And why, yes it would even cover the cost of healthcare if I got sick/injured while in the United States.
    Currently I have no details about the specific percentage of my 'social' tax which goes to healthcare (am at work). It is divided between pension fund, healthcare, and a couple of other things. But a rough guess puts it at somewhere between 2000 - 2500 per year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinniesMate View Post
    Thanks for the link sparq.

    Think about this: This bill will increase the covered from 83% to 96% at a cost of $829,000,000,000. That means the bill will spend $829,000,000,000 to cover 11% of the people that are in the U.S. legally, including those that make up that 11% and are U.S. citizens. That is roughly 39,000,000 people added to the ranks of the insured.

    That means this bill will cost $21,256.41/person to insure over a 10 year period. This doesn't even make sense because that is $2,1256/person/year. There is no way that you can insure a person for $2,000/year. This is the problem with the CBO; their numbers don't work in the real world. It is also the problem with the politicians in Washington. They use misleading numbers to support their side.
    You can absolutly insure a single person for less th 2000 a year.case in point I pay 165 a month multiply by 12 it comes out to1,970 dollars. That is what I pay with no employer help.My wife pays a little over 200 a month for employer sponsered health plan.My coverages are better and my deductable is lower.Maybe we should just do away with employer based healthcare.Then again maybe this is a big city problem.Big city living requires big city money.

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