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    Quote Originally Posted by welshwizard View Post
    It might be difficult to convince the people of Wales this week. According to the BBC, coldest day in Wales yesterday since they started keeping records.
    Yea, I know it was colder there during the Ice Age.
    Which is why the term climate change is better than global warming.

    Yes, the overall global trend will be an increase in temperature, but this will have varying affects around the globe, one of which is some parts will have colder, harsher winters.

    People who have no understanding like to say, "Oh look at the record snowfall, global warming is so fake!" and not realize that the harsher winter is one of the predicted effects of climate change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markevens View Post
    People who have no understanding like to say, "Oh look at the record snowfall, global warming is so fake!" and not realize that the harsher winter is one of the predicted effects of climate change.
    My remarks were completely 'tongue in cheek' .
    However, there are many that are predicting an arid hot climate for the South of England, with the advice to plant grape vines.
    For those on the North American continent, Wales not far from the South of England (My Canadian brother-in-law drives further to buy his groceries).
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    Last winter was surely coldest for years and currently we have cold as in Russian hell. However those who think this is a proof against climate change haven't maybe lived long enough.
    I would say that last 20-25 years winters have been enormously warm. Last winter was the first real winter for years. When i was a kid, winters were much more colder, like winters should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by welshwizard View Post
    My remarks were completely 'tongue in cheek' .
    However, there are many that are predicting an arid hot climate for the South of England, with the advice to plant grape vines.
    For those on the North American continent, Wales not far from the South of England (My Canadian brother-in-law drives further to buy his groceries).
    Just because we can't pronounce "Cwwwryllthstwyk" doesn't mean we don't know where Wales is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by commiecat View Post
    Just because we can't pronounce "Cwwwryllthstwyk" doesn't mean we don't know where Wales is!
    When I stop and think about it, there are people in London that don't know where Wales is.
    The Winters of 40-50 years ago seemed colder, but how much of that was because I was wearing short trousers all the year round I'm not sure.
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    Just thought I'd add this link for you.

    Sweden Braces for Record Freeze. Coldest seasonal temperatures in 100 years.

    Sweden braces for record freeze - The Local

    But I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell us how these cold temperatures are actually caused by Global Warming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miner123 View Post
    Just thought I'd add this link for you.

    Sweden Braces for Record Freeze. Coldest seasonal temperatures in 100 years.

    Sweden braces for record freeze - The Local

    But I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell us how these cold temperatures are actually caused by Global Warming.
    I won't bother, because some people who are dead set in their opinions refuse to grasp the concept of the temperature extremes that have long been predicted to be a component of global warming.

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    Stick a thermometer in a glacier and conclude that the world is freezing.

    Stick a thermometer in a volcano and conclude that the world is boiling.

    Does anyone have the brains to stop looking at isolated cases (e.g. Wales and Sweden) and look at GLOBAL AVERAGES?

    Oh wait, it's already been done? Silly me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miner123 View Post
    This discussion is about climate, not weather. If you want to scour the internet for weather articles, feel free to start a separate thread. Did you even read the post right before yours which pretty much explained this?

    BBC published this article just a few days ago:
    BBC News - 2010 sets new temperature records

    ...up until the end of October, 2010 was the warmest year in the instrumental record going back to 1850

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