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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete_S View Post
    Agreed. This is tin foil hat kind of stuff.
    I'm not so certain it is. While I still don't know what to make of this stuff coming up in Copenhagen I do not believe it is out of the realm of real possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    I'm not so certain it is. While I still don't know what to make of this stuff coming up in Copenhagen I do not believe it is out of the realm of real possibilities.
    Mark, you've gotta be kidding, or you're so politically biased you can't even think right.
    Here, I've got another story for you, actually it's a full length movie Capitalism: A Love Story

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    Actually all you folks busting on Mark for wearing his tinfoil hat looking out the windows for the Black stealth choppers, better look again...

    I have been hearing more and more about this now, and this guy was on Laura Ingram this morning.... this is looking more and more true....

    I kept saying this stuff would never happen in my lifetime, but perhaps I was wrong, thanks to the Liberal Left or more aptly named the New American Communist Party we are going faster and faster in this direction...

    And those of you that were the old Democrats, and you middle of the roaders that voted for Obama only have yourselves to blame, for not realizing that he is that far to the left...

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    Remembert a few things and look back on one brilliant man.

    #1. The Constitution says that Congress shall not delegat any of its powers

    #2. The Federal Reserve Bank is not part of the governement. (look at point number one)

    #3. Berneke stated in a public speech in the early 2000's (before his ascendancy to Chairman) that the Fed was the reason for all the financial troubles in the US to include the Great Depression.

    #4. Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
    'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties
    than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to
    control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation,
    the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive
    the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the
    continent their fathers conquered.'

    They can do whatever they want. The majority of Americans polled do not want the Obamacare, but they are going to do it anyway. They [polititions] are elists--on both sides--and they will do whatever they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarend View Post
    Remembert a few things and look back on one brilliant man.

    #1. The Constitution says that Congress shall not delegat any of its powers

    #2. The Federal Reserve Bank is not part of the governement. (look at point number one)

    #3. Berneke stated in a public speech in the early 2000's (before his ascendancy to Chairman) that the Fed was the reason for all the financial troubles in the US to include the Great Depression.

    #4. Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
    'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties
    than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to
    control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation,
    the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive
    the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the
    continent their fathers conquered.'

    They can do whatever they want. The majority of Americans polled do not want the Obamacare, but they are going to do it anyway. They [polititions] are elists--on both sides--and they will do whatever they want.
    On that subject

    On March 11 2008, the Fed had an unannounced meeting with the Big 5 minus Bear Stearns. That meeting was discovered after the fact through an unrelated FOIA request. The topic of that meeting is undisclosed.

    On the same day, after the meeting, somebody did a "naked short sell" on Bear Stearns... betting $1.7M that the stock would be worth half its then-current price within 9 days. The next morning, there was a bank run on Bear Stearns and the stock plummeted. On March 17 2008, the person doing the bet cashed out $270M on the operation. Bear Stearns was forced to sell itself to JPMorgan Chase, who had received $29bn from the Fed specifically to buy the investment bank.

    6 months later, virtually the same scenario happened with Lehman Brothers. This is considered the start of the subprime/finance meltdown.

    To date, the SEC hasn't been able to identify the man even after several requests from the Senate Banking Committee. The same SEC that has been known to send auditors abroad for a $2000 irregularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelP View Post
    On that subject

    On March 11 2008, the Fed had an unannounced meeting with the Big 5 minus Bear Stearns. That meeting was discovered after the fact through an unrelated FOIA request. The topic of that meeting is undisclosed.

    On the same day, after the meeting, somebody did a "naked short sell" on Bear Stearns... betting $1.7M that the stock would be worth half its then-current price within 9 days. The next morning, there was a bank run on Bear Stearns and the stock plummeted. On March 17 2008, the person doing the bet cashed out $270M on the operation. Bear Stearns was forced to sell itself to JPMorgan Chase, who had received $29bn from the Fed specifically to buy the investment bank.

    6 months later, virtually the same scenario happened with Lehman Brothers. This is considered the start of the subprime/finance meltdown.

    To date, the SEC hasn't been able to identify the man even after several requests from the Senate Banking Committee. The same SEC that has been known to send auditors abroad for a $2000 irregularity.
    Thats some interesting information. I'm gonna have to look up more about it.

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    I think the real point being glossed over here is Global Warming to begin with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Actually all you folks busting on Mark for wearing his tinfoil hat looking out the windows for the Black stealth choppers, better look again...

    I have been hearing more and more about this now, and this guy was on Laura Ingram this morning.... this is looking more and more true....

    I kept saying this stuff would never happen in my lifetime, but perhaps I was wrong, thanks to the Liberal Left or more aptly named the New American Communist Party we are going faster and faster in this direction...

    And those of you that were the old Democrats, and you middle of the roaders that voted for Obama only have yourselves to blame, for not realizing that he is that far to the left...

    Edit: I just read this again and in trying to use sarcasm to make a point it also reads like I'm attacking

    I have been hearing more and more about this now, and this guy was on Laura Ingram this morning.... this is looking more and more true....

    I kept saying this stuff would never happen in my lifetime, but perhaps I was wrong, thanks to the Liberal Left or more aptly named the New American Communist Party we are going faster and faster in this direction...

    And those of you that were the old Democrats, and you middle of the roaders that voted for Obama only have yourselves to blame, for not realizing that he is that far to the left...
    Nooooo. That doesn't sound like tin foil hat talk. Uh uhh. A lot of people are off their meds in this country lately. Is irrational paranoia contagious? Is there a vaccine for the H1-IP1 virus going around.

    Maybe irrational paranoia was weaponized in some CIA black op in cahoots with the boys in Copenhagen and then seeded in the clouds by black helicopters to make people buy up ammunition and think Obama is the anti-christ?

    I can't keep up anymore. Is it being against Obama marriage and gays are going to take everybody's guns away, or is it the other way around? Wait those theories are a week old anyway. We're on to bigger and more sinister conspiracies now.

    Seriously the same people who don't think the governments in Europe and the US are smart enough to dole out healthcare, also think those same governments are so clever as to enslave us a'la 1984.

    This guy in the video is just spouting off more B.S. to stoke the flames of people who get off on these nutty thought processes. Somehow he is the only person in the world who managed to figure out what Obama and the LIBERALS of the word are REALLY going to do.

    It's a man with a prophet fantasy appealing to those with an Armageddon fantasy. Nothing more.

    Edit: I was trying to use sarcasm to make a point. It also might read like I'm attacking gssixgun personally, which wasn't my goal. So I want to make it clear I don't agree with that thinking, but I also don't know everything either.
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    As the saying goes "Those that are ignorant to history are doomed to repeat it"....

    Ya know why even bother, You believe in that Utopian society that the government will give you and I'll believe in what I want ...

    These conversations have gotten old anyway nowadays there are just to many of them....
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    As the saying goes "Those that are ignorant to history are doomed to repeat it"....

    Sorry I am not playing the "it isn't true it will never happen here" leftist BS anymore... It is happening and I for one don't like it, fortunately there are 48% of the American people that stand by me....
    Being a History Major I'm well aware of history in a great way. As for your statistic, 48% of the American People think Obama is the anti christ plotting a course to a new world order. I have to question your source. Now if you are interpreting a poll to your liking, then that makes sense.

    It most certainly can happen here, Reagan and Bush and their thugs proved how close we can come to that mentality. I'm just not so sure which side of the argument the nut jobs hoarding ammunition and burying guns and looking for black helicopters is on. The guy in the video seems to have an inside knowledge that no one else seems to possess and that combined with the outrageous claims he is making tends to make me call B.S.
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