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    Default The eleventh hour?

    I got this in an email. Do any of you believe there is any truth to this:YouTube - Is Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty?

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    This sort of idea has been swimming around in my head since I was old enough to vote. It seems that every President since after Reagan has brought us closer to this possibility.
    If it is true Obama will be known as the President that killed that beautiful idea known as The United States of America but it seems he is just the last in a long line of people who will be responsible including you and I.

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    Treaties signed by The President are not binding. The president has no more authority to ratify a treaty than I do. Congress must ratify all treaties.

    Do you you remember the SALT treaties? They were useless too because congress never ratified them. That was the justification for both sides violating these treaties.

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    My older brother and father both know people in the CIA and they [CIA] have advised us to stock-up. My brother's friends sold all they property, got out of the US dollar and moved to Buenos Aires.

    I don't know what is coming, but it never hurts to be prepared.

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    I was curious about the guy's references to the document, so I followed the links in the "more info" section of the Youtube page and looked at the document. Granted, I only gave it a quick look, but I don't see anything about the creation of a new, international government which will rule the world. I searched the document for "government" and read the sections everywhere the word appeared.

    Maybe I'm missing something. Has anyone else read the document and found the same implications the speaker has?

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    Quote Originally Posted by holli4pirating View Post
    I was curious about the guy's references to the document, so I followed the links in the "more info" section of the Youtube page and looked at the document. Granted, I only gave it a quick look, but I don't see anything about the creation of a new, international government which will rule the world. I searched the document for "government" and read the sections everywhere the word appeared.

    Maybe I'm missing something. Has anyone else read the document and found the same implications the speaker has?
    I have not. Could you provide a link?

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    The document is here: (by the way, the url makes me a little suspicuous, but I've not looked around their webpage, so I'm assuming it's legit + grain of salt for the moment)
    http://www.globalclimatescam.com/doc...hagen-2009.pdf

    If you look at the video on Youtube here:
    (I tried to post the url but it keeps just inserting the video. click on the video while it's playing and it'll take you to the actual website)
    and click more info, it cites sections of the text that the speaker is referring to.
    Last edited by holli4pirating; 10-18-2009 at 07:50 PM.

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    Holli4pirating,

    Do you really think that they would use the term "world government" in the document?? Search for COP instead, for its authorities and powers over participating parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    Holli4pirating,

    Do you really think that they would use the term "world government" in the document?? Search for COP instead, for its authorities and powers over participating parties.
    I searched for Government because the speaker specifically stated that the word government was used. I'll take another look for COP. Thanks for the suggestion.

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