Thread: A Health Care Scenario

Originally Posted by commiecat

Private insurance will still be owned privately and the current doctors and nurses will still be taking care of you.

What's incorrect about that? Where does it say that government will control our health care? That's like saying that government has control of package delivery.

Offering one option in a sea of many is far from taking control as far as I'm concerned.

Unfortunately I don't have access to the Pelosi bill. My understanding is that there is a provision that penalizes doctors who order medical tests above a certain percentile (Physicians Argue Against Provision Penalizing for Excessive Testing in Healthcare Reform Bill | Business and Financial | News and Analysis)

Sounds like government control to me.

If your doctor is considering performing that one-more-diagnostic-test-just-to-be-sure, will the procedure be skipped because the doctor finally decides it's unnecessary? or due to a fear of being penalized? You'll never know.

The bill is over 1900 pages. In 1900 pages there can be many such provisions. A good way to hide problematic provisions is to bury them in a voluminous mountain of legalese. Since when does it require 1900 pages to define how a doctor gets paid?

Originally Posted by honedright

If your doctor . . . .

so, you have a doctor yay! yesterday one was out of your reach and today you have one.

There are a lot of what ifs and buts after that, I'm sure, but lets sort the basics shall we?

Originally Posted by gregs656

so, you have a doctor yay! yesterday one was out of your reach and today you have one.

There are a lot of what ifs and buts after that, I'm sure, but lets sort the basics shall we?

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Think about it.

Originally Posted by gregs656

Think about it.

I've thought about it. Your post is inapplicable to me and makes no sense.

i would like to chime in for a couple of reasons.
1. show me one program that the government is involved in that is not a complete and total mess.
2. i have the utmost respect for any man or woman that will give up a large part of their life training to become a doctor and i want that person to be paid highly for the skills that they acquire, because it may be me on that table when the surgeon walks in. i want the very best not someone that works by some government guidelines and pay scale.
also what i have seen and heard the last couple of days on this subject has not been to my liking. according to one release about the public option, if you loose your job you WILL go onto the obamacare plan and you will not be able to come off of it. if this is so, then i want none of it..
for all of you out there training in the medical field my hat is off to you and thank you.

Originally Posted by 59caddy

i want the very best

What on earth suggests to you that at the moment you are getting the very best? You're not.

Originally Posted by honedright

I've thought about it. Your post is inapplicable to me and makes no sense.

ok, my point was, that arguing over what doctors may or may not do if this new bill is passed is a bit of a moote point for all those millions of people who do not currently have a doctor and, in theory, will be able to have one if this new bill is passed.

My point was, lets cover the basics (getting affordable healthcare to those who need it) and then perhaps we can start worrying about the ins and outs of it if your fears are realized.

I appologize if my original post was too cryptic, it was a lot quicker to type though