On Climate Change and Evolution

**JMS** · 11-01-2009, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by xman

You equivocate ... again.

It seems rather straight forward to me. Maybe you need reading glasses?

**TexasBob** · 11-01-2009, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by ControlFreak1

Have you studied wood peckers. There's one variety who's tongue goes downn it's throat around, the back up and over it's skull, then down and through a hole in one of it's nostrils. Ya, it 'evolved' that way. HA HAAAA! Man! That evolution stuff is a real howl man, a real hoot.

I have not studied woodpeckers and would like to see a reference to that one as well.

But let me get this straight -- assuming there is some such woodpecker (which am not denying) -- you are saying that it is more likely the result of some INTELLEGENT design rather than an accident of evolutionary history?

**xman** · 11-01-2009, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by ControlFreak1

Really X? Go ahead and tell us which one died FOR ANYBODY. Or DID anything FOR ANYBODY.

Prometheus for one.

**JMS** · 11-01-2009, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by TexasBob

I have not studied woodpeckers and would like to see a reference to that one as well.

But let me get this straight -- assuming there is some such woodpecker (which am not denying) -- you are saying that it is more likely the result of some INTELLEGENT design rather than an accident of evolutionary history?

**denmason** · 11-01-2009, 11:32 PM

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**xman** · 11-01-2009, 11:39 PM

XMAN! Doing the work for you ... again!

YouTube - Irrefutable Proof of Evolution- Part 1 (mtDNA, ERVs, Fusion)

**ControlFreak1** · 11-02-2009, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by TexasBob

I have not studied woodpeckers and would like to see a reference to that one as well.

But let me get this straight -- assuming there is some such woodpecker (which am not denying) -- you are saying that it is more likely the result of some INTELLEGENT design rather than an accident of evolutionary history?

That particular one is the European Green Woodpecker. Woodpeckers in general are very fascinating, their beaks, feet, skull, tail feathers, and of course tongue are different and unique from other birds. I wonder why all birds didn't evolve into woodpeckers? Their tongues are not only long, some up to 10 inches, where most other birds tongues only go to the end of their beak, it has little barbs on it to help when they stab their little bug meals and it also has a little 'glue' factory to help hold the little bug meals that it stabs and of course it also has another little factory built into it so that when it retracts the little bug meal on the end of it's tongue back into it's mouth it desolves the 'glue' that it manufactures. Their skull is the heaviest and thickest of any animal compared to it's size and has built in 'shock absorbers' to protect the contents of its head, in fact brain surgeons study these little creatures to help them in dealing with patients who have suffered head trauma in order to repair them as best as they can. Very fascinating creatures. If some one wants to believe that they just evolved all of their incredible systems then ok. But like other creatures the creatures in the fossil record are either extinct or THEY STILL EXIST TODAY. Like the ever popular coelacanth, a lobe finned fish 'believed' to have gone extinct over 65 million years ago but in 1938 fishermen off the east coast of South Africa caught one and now they can be found in captivity in aquariums around the world. It is the same as the supposed 65 millionn year old fossil ones. What happened to that fella? Someone forgot to tell him to 'evolve'? He fell of the 'evolutionary' ladder?

**TexasBob** · 11-02-2009, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by ControlFreak1

Because so much is obviously so young, we call them the limiting factor.

How young or old are the lowest metamorphic layers in the Grand Canyon?

Why are they in layers?

How come some are not nice and level? What deformed them? How long did it take?

Is the Colorado river there because there is a canyon or is the canyon there because there is a river? How long did it take the river to erode away that much rock? How will it look in a million years? Ten million? A hundred million? Can we extrapolate backwards in time?

Is degree of curiosity a limiting factor?

**ControlFreak1** · 11-02-2009, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by xman

Prometheus for one.

So, you know someone who believes that? What religion is that? He didn't die for anyone. and he didn't do anything for anyone.

**ControlFreak1** · 11-02-2009, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by xman

XMAN! Doing the work for you ... again!

YouTube - Irrefutable Proof of Evolution- Part 1 (mtDNA, ERVs, Fusion)

YouTube - Proof of Evolution - Part 2 (Summation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbI2d...eature=related

YouTube - Proof of Evolution - Part 4 Embryology

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