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    the biggest problem to prove evolution is that it happens real time
    we could start a project and check back in lets say 4 million years

    mutations happen (usually not in a good way)

    well the bacteria that actually does new things seems to have been designed rather then evolved

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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    More lies.
    Is that it X? no speculative links?

    Those links are the life of the party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by janivar123 View Post
    well the bacteria that actually does new things seems to have been designed rather then evolved
    I just want to be clear on your position.

    Lets say we found a hypothetical creature that specialized in eating a man made object, for example DE razor blades. It can only eat DE razor blades. To you this is evidence that God created man and watched as man invented razor blades. He then decided to create a creature capable of eating said razor blades, and insert His new creation into the world.

    Is the above an accurate summary of your position?
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    Lets say we found a hypothetical creature that specialized in eating a man made object, for example DE razor blades. It can only eat DE razor blades. To you this is evidence that God created man and watched as man invented razor blades. He then decided to create a creature capable of eating said razor blades, and insert His new creation into the world.


    actually my position is another place out there
    what i was thinking of is manmade design

    hmm is rust a lifeform?

    what im finding here is that its no real evidence of any of these theses that can actually can form a conclution (can you prove your religion?)
    dont answer the() im just saying

    ok guess that was a lo blow
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcd View Post
    Oh totally. If there were any examples of information getting into the genome, Evolution would be far less embarrassing.

    For example, if there were a creature, lets say a bacteria, that learned to do something new and totally impossible, like digest a man-made substance (let's just pick nylon for this example), then that would be a great example of new information. They could even give it an unimaginative name like Nylonase.

    But there is just nothing like that at all.
    Yur slippin' J, come on playuh, don't you mean it evolve the ability to digest man made material. And of course they know that it didn't already have this ability because they got some man made material and went back in their time machine and tried to feed it to the poor little bacteria and it couldn't digest it so it died. (Wow! It was punctuated equilibrium, they caused it, it's a conspiracy). So now it has evolved into a new species or whatever? We won't call it a bacteria now, so we have proof of a newly evolved species, not just a variation of an existing organism which is compatible with the ones that haven't developed this ability or characteristic. Wow. That's a nice con I mean deal that they set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlFreak1 View Post
    Yur slippin' J, come on playuh, don't you mean it evolve the ability to digest man made material.
    That's a great spot there homie!

    And of course they know that it didn't already have this ability because they got some man made material and went back in their time machine and tried to feed it to the poor little bacteria and it couldn't digest it so it died.
    If there were a nylon eating bacteria right now, it can't have existed 100 years ago. No nylon then bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcd View Post
    That's a great spot there homie!


    If there were a nylon eating bacteria right now, it can't have existed 100 years ago. No nylon then bro.

    Ya, I see how that 'proves' that it couldn't already have that ability. You know like, you or I could eat a piece of nylon and digest it, it may not be nutritional but humans a hundred years ago couldn't have done it. I got yo back playboy.
    What happin to yo boy X, playuh? He MIA.

    shave on shaver

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcd View Post
    That's a great spot there homie!


    If there were a nylon eating bacteria right now, it can't have existed 100 years ago. No nylon then bro.
    I have a pet rat that will eat almost anything. It eats plastic, greens, meat, grain products, you name it. Are you suggesting that this bacteria could not have sustained itself on other material?

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    well nylon can be broken down so teoreticly it can be digested

    a bacteria will adapt to a new enviroment if it dosnt die first
    but seems its not really evolution till it comes as something other then a bacteria

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    NO! You're both wrong, now just shut up or it's off to the scientism gulag for the both of you.

    (chill JCD, I got this one big dog)

    Last edited by ControlFreak1; 11-02-2009 at 03:13 AM.

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