Thread: There's water on the MOON!

Originally Posted by xman

The idea would be to avoid having to spend even more money to ship water up there.

Money can be printed. The moon's water cannot be replaced.

You have no idea if there is or isn't an ecosystem up there, or the remains of one. You can assume, but you can not know.

We will probably pollute it long before we figure out if moon water has any value. Hell we dumped a bunch of garbage on the moon, including a junk car, with no apparent purpose.

Hmm, maybe it is time to check this tread:
Shaving on the Moon !!! - Straight Razor Place Forums

"Shaving on the moon...."

i recommend to any of you here that thinks bring water here is a good idea...Watch the documentary (Blue Gold) it's on netflix as a streaming movie! it's very sad but very true, also when even here on the earth if we tap a water source and then bottle and ship to another country or even state the water does not return to it's original aquifer! this is also why places like Florida have huge holes sink hole now, because they are using up all the ground water...!
if we respect the mother we can be here for a very long time, if we don't we're going bye bye very soon!

the tree huger known as Wulfgar

So they found water on the moon. Big deal. Hydrogen is about the most plentiful element in the universe and hydrogen readily combines with oxygen. One theory of the extinction of the dinosaur is that a comet collided with the earth and the resulting debris was sprayed out into the orbit the moon now resides and over time coagulated into the moon. The earth had water and oxygen at that time. Water would have more than likely been part of the debris since the theory also states that the impact was in the Atlantic near the Yucatan Peninsula.

So again, are we surprised that water is on the moon? What does water on the moon prove? It proves that there is water on the moon and nothing more.

Originally Posted by MinniesMate

One theory of the extinction of the dinosaur is that a comet collided with the earth and the resulting debris was sprayed out into the orbit the moon now resides and over time coagulated into the moon.

These are two separate meteor strikes you are thinking of. If a meteor strike is responsible for creating our moon it happened a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time before there was any life around here.

Originally Posted by xman

These are two separate meteor strikes you are thinking of. If a meteor strike is responsible for creating our moon it happened a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time before there was any life around here.

You are right. I had the two confused.

However, Wikipedia has the following to say about water on the moon:

The continuous bombardment of the Moon by comets and meteoroids has most likely added small amounts of water to the lunar surface. If so, sunlight would split much of this water into its constituent elements of hydrogen and oxygen, both of which would ordinarily escape into space over time, because of the Moon's weak gravity. However, because of the slightness of the axial tilt of the Moon's spin axis to the ecliptic plane—only 1.5°—some deep craters near the poles never receive direct light from the Sun and are thus in permanent shadow (see Shackleton crater). Water molecules that ended up in these craters could be stable for long periods of time."

Originally Posted by MinniesMate

So again, are we surprised that water is on the moon? What does water on the moon prove? It proves that there is water on the moon and nothing more.

It is evidence that life may exist outside out own planet as water is a fundamental building block for all life.

Originally Posted by red96ta

It is evidence that life may exist outside out own planet as water is a fundamental building block for all life.

While I believe there MAY be life on other planets, water on the moon is evidence of nothing except water on the moon, nothing more. There is no atmosphere on the moon, so life as we know it, has never existed on the moon. There will never be life on the moon unless it is in the confines of a man-made environment and then, only the life that man decides to deposit there.

Much of the water in the universe is believed to be a byproduct of the birth of stars. When a star is born there is an explosion of gases and dust that compresses the hydrogen and oxygen in the surrounding area and fusing them into water vapor. There are great interstellar clouds of water vapor in our Milky Way galaxy and probably in other galaxies as well. Each of the planets in our solar system was formed in these interstellar clouds and each has water present in one form or another.

The point of my post, this and earlier post, is that water is probably the most abundant compound in the universe and we shouldn't be surprised to find it on celestial bodies other than earth But that does not mean that there is life on other planets in our solar system or in any other solar system in our universe. There may be, but the existence of water does not mean that there is and it doesn't mean that there isn't.

Originally Posted by gregs656

You have no idea if there is or isn't an ecosystem up there, or the remains of one. You can assume, but you can not know.

But we can find out, can't we?
And if there is no eco system dependency (which would surprise me since it is frozen extremely cold) there is nothing preventing us from using it.

And even if there is.
We shouldn't make an entire species extinct, granted, but presumably, you eat meat or fish too, or eat eggs, or drink milk, or wear leather shoes, or something. If we would find an eco system on the moon (unlikely) and it is big enough to sustain itself, it'd make good food. Maybe.

I would go on with explaining, but this man did it much better than I can:

YouTube - George Carlin - Saving the Planet