Danny Glover sticks foot in his mouth also...now the left and right have moronic commentary as reported here and the huffington post
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Danny Glover sticks foot in his mouth also...now the left and right have moronic commentary as reported here and the huffington post
Danny Glover Haiti Comments: VIDEO | Gather
What a retard! What in the world was he trying to say? I suspect that he doesn't even know. Just some rambling flibble flabble and flopdoodle.
Is he trying to say that this happened because the scam in Copenhagen didn't go over like they wanted to?
When this hit the news I could just see Emmanuel and Axelrod and the rest of the sleazes with their eyes as big as saucers and their little brains going into overdrive trying to storm up an idea of how they could take advantage of the situation.
One of their mottos is - "Never let a good crisis go to waste."
Disgusting.
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may be he just does a lot of charity work.... know what i'm sayin'...
I never realized that eathquakes and the like were caused by global warming. It would seem, just in case, that Californians would be well advised to pack up their effects and affects to seek work and shelter elsewhere. Whatever do you suppose the Krakatoans did to get their island blown up? Or was this blast caused by nearby misdirected or evil neighbors with large elemental footprints?
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Maybe so Ivan, and that can be a good thing. But it does charity efforts no favors to get up there and say that the earthguake is a result of Copenhagen. It's just retarded. :)
he and pat robertson may both do good for many people....they both are also terribly wrong in their assessment of the tragedyQuote:
Originally Posted by gugi
To equate an earthquake to global climate change is really inaccurate and unfortunate.
I think he's misguided in this statement, but let it be understood that tsunamis and other weather-related disasters are imminent if global warming is real.
Part of the problem is that people choose a side and become a cheerleader for their agenda. And these agendas can be clouded sometimes behind rhetoric.
By and large, the vast majority of scientists throughout the world agree that global climate change is real and will result in disastrous consequences if nothing is done. Unfortunately, pundits (who are essentially lobbyists for the republican party, and yet they insist that the media is liberal even though they ARE the media) apparently have more credibility than the men who have decided to devote themselves to science rather than a political party... simply because they have a louder voice and have no problem with the verbal bullying that goes on by Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, etc...
Those pundits are the scum of the earth and they're selling out America to fill their own pockets.
Anyway, yes. Ignorant statment by Danny Glover, but he's right in the inference that global warming will lead to epic disaster in third world nations... and then later in first world nations...
glad to see the sweetener worked :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
GUGI...did you put something in my drink!!!!!!?????Quote:
Originally Posted by gugi
I've no idea who mr Glover is (probably someone with influence), but his statements seemed to be little 'strange'.
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I am a little confused by this remark. We cant say that an earthquake was caused by global warming, but we can say that tsunamis are. Tsunamis are caused by earthquakes on the sea floor. As far as other weather related disasters, lets look at Katrina. The global warming people at the time said this was the first of more to come, they even went so far as to say that in the next year we were going to see 17 major hurricanes. They were only off by 16 or 17.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMKA
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Part of the problem is that people choose a side and become a cheerleader for their agenda. And these agendas can be clouded sometimes behind rhetoric
Al Gore jumps to mind.
If you look a little closer I think you will find that the consensus is that the earth has warmed something like .5 deg celsius in the last 100 yrs. That has been extrapolated to mean that humans are destroying the earth. You will have a hard time saying that the vast majority of scientists believe in AGW(man made). To say we contribute maybe, but that we are the sole cause, my ***. Its kind of funny, we used to call climate change the weather and correct me if I am wrong but isnt the whole basis of evolution that we adapt to our enviroment. Not until now has any species tried to get their enviroment to adapt to what they think it should be.Quote:
By and large, the vast majority of scientists throughout the world agree that global climate change is real and will result in disastrous consequences if nothing is done. Unfortunately, pundits (who are essentially lobbyists for the republican party, and yet they insist that the media is liberal even though they ARE the media) apparently have more credibility than the men who have decided to devote themselves to science rather than a political party... simply because they have a louder voice and have no problem with the verbal bullying that goes on by Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, etc...
As for the media, and even the right wing pundits you have listed are progressives, they all believe in big government, the only difference being that the right wants bigger government to control our morality and the left wants big government to control everything else, imo.
Again Al Gore jumps to mindQuote:
Those pundits are the scum of the earth and they're selling out America to fill their own pockets.
Pure hogwash, imo, except for the danny glover part, before the comma.Quote:
Anyway, yes. Ignorant statment by Danny Glover, but he's right in the inference that global warming will lead to epic disaster in third world nations... and then later in first world nations...
Hogwash. If the equatorial area became hotter with no concurrent warming of the poles, then PERHAPS that might be the case, since it is the temperature DIFFERENTIAL that creates weather patterns. Since the poles are warming as well, this does not seem to be a likely scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMKA
I listened to the clip and it was pretty incoherent. I'm assuming that bit at the end about the climate change summit is the reason you posted this?Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
It seems like you're grasping at straws, though. I mean, both Glover and Robertson are well-known people - but the difference is, one acts likes a spokesperson for God and has an audience that is crazy enough to believe that he is, while the other is just some actor nobody's heard of since the Lethal Weapon movies.
Don't worry, you'll find something that carries the same weight - you'll probably just have to bide your time. :)
that figures. you missed the point completely or just ignored it. the point being that both the right and left have people that make serious blunders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blade Wielder
i could reference many comments both right and left that are both stupid and outlandish. this thread was in response to the one about pat and his big mistake.
calling all of pat robertsons followers crazy shows how intolerant you are of someones views that you do not adhere to. calling someone crazy for their beliefs in Christ and his teachings taught by someone(anyone) is ludicrous.
danny glover has been all over the news for the last few years. all you have to do is look and listen for him and he pops up quite often.
If I ever miss your intended point, know that it's likely to do with your slippery grasp on the English language.Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
In this case, no, I'm not wearing my "blunder blinders." I think Glover sounded like a babbling idiot in that recording. However, I understood the point he was making. Like Robertson (I'm assuming), he wants to help the suffering Haitian people. Unlike Robertson, he's not talking about signed pacts with the Devil. They're just not "serious blunders" of the same caliber, you know? Robertson's would be a 45-70, while Glover's would be more like a .22 short.
ok, so let us resort to the personal ridicule or attacks....typicalQuote:
Originally Posted by Blade Wielder
Hey, you're the one who just told me in the Kick-Ass thread that you like to eat barbequed monkey (clearly implying that you were going to kill and then cannibalize me).Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
Robertson said that God was punishing the Haitiians for their belief in a different God than his. Which is anti American ideals, with freedom of religion and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blade Wielder
Glover said mother nature was punishing the Haitiians for our belief in a different God than his. I will help you out - his GOD and lots of other liberals is government. Which is anti American ideals, with limited government being our basic tenant of governing or at least it was.
I really dont see the difference, AFAIC Glover is shooting a Bazooka and Robertson is shooting blanks. Whose presence will you feel hardest, big government or God. I tend to think the later uses a hands off approach but thats just me.
Since 59caddy is a car and you are a monkey I don't see how cannibalization even enters into the picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blade Wielder
Which one? That the Earthquake was caused by Global warming or that it's cause is the result of actions not taken at the climate summit in Copenhagen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blade Wielder
You may not look at Mr.Glover with the same disdain as you do Mr.Robertson but isn't that a bit prejudice (intolerant) against right? There is just as many "Global Warmers" ,if not more, than there are those who watch Robertson's 700 Club just most media would rather take their jabs at the religious right (which this was an easy shot to say the least)than the left. The thing is everyone has something they are intolerant about the key finding out how to bring it to the surface thus exposing the flaw.
never said anything about you. you just assumed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blade Wielder
besides how does one cannibalize a monkey(cannibals eat humans not monkeys) now who lost the grip?
also see above post about cadillacs:)
"The Left" and "the Right"? Are you actually claiming Pat Robertson as yours, now? Is an attack on him an attack on you? Cause let me tell you, at our soopah seekrit "Leftist God hating commie devil lover" meetings (Bi annual, held at The Meadows, invitation only), Danny Glover isn't even allowed in the door.
The guy is obviously delusional. He doesn't know what he's talking about. So how on earth does that reflect on "The Left"? Any more than Pat Robertson reflects on "The Right"?
We have two fruitcake statements, caddy, well done. Except, oh yeah, Pat Robertson has millions of people who hang on his every word, and he claims to be speaking for God...that's a minor difference that might need addressing.
I don't think I'll dignify that with a response.Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
Instead I will refer you to JimR's post just above me, which I enjoyed.
Give Mr. Glover a break! He can't help it that he doesn't fit Harry Reid's criteria for skin tone and dialect.
Otherwise I'm sure everything he says would be just fine.
if you are scared, just say you are scared, no biggie:roflmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Blade Wielder
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Originally Posted by honedright
Well done! Thank you! Now, class, is this an example of the "Ignoration Elenchi", "Red Herring" or "Package Deal" fallacy? My personal vote is Red HErring, as there is a certain element of malice I believe.
Any other votes?
Possibly. I try to be fair and balanced ;) so I would like to know the context of that quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
Sen Patsie implied that the earthquake was a direct action from God.
Danny could have meant that it was a direct consequence of global warming, OR he could have meant that if global warming is not handled timely, we will see carnage one the same scale as this earthquake.
Based on the context, it could go either way, which is still tasteless.
If he thinks it is a direct result, he is a nutter. If he doesn't, then he is just using the earthquake to get attention for his cause.
Crap, I read the whole thread just to find someone beat me to the punch on the very last post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
It's odd - in the rush to point out what an ignorant thing it is to think climate change causes earthquakes, everyone is misquoting him. Listen to the audio. He didn't say "When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen". It was more like "When we will (read?) back through we did... what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen". There's definitely a "will" in there, so it's reasonable to think he was saying we could see similar disasters in the future. On the other hand, I completely understand why his stammered-over-the-phone delivery confused people.
True, although I don't see any meaningful comparison with Pat Robertson if the latter is the case. Both may have a cause, but I suspect the motivation and emotions behind them are quite different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
On another note, from everything I've read, what "we" did at the climate summit was get torpedoed by the Chinese. Most of the rest of the world isn't to blame for the lack of substantial results.
Another whack job (right up there with Pat Robinson). I suggest we lock them both in a small closet where they can enjoy each others company.
Let me clarify my previous statement...
Mr. Glover seems to be confused that an earthquake can be caused by global warming. However, he is aware that global warming can cause global disasters. His confusion is about what "act of 'god' " causes which global disasters and loss of human life.
Global warming will kill people and already has killed people. Mr. Glover recognizes this and is using the Haiti disaster as a platform for it, which is misguided.
I hope this clears things up for those who were confused.
to me it sounds more like hes urging for help
and then starts to confuse himself after saying the climate change has made more places prone to natural disasters
remember he was given 2 minutes and the speach didnt seem prepared
when and where did global warming kill people??? that is a far stretch for anyone to claim. sounds like fear mongering to me..Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMKA
I agree with Mr. Caddy that Glover is as bad in some regards but I think his message, as twisted as it may be, is still a plea for help as opposed to Robertson's hatespeak. Robertson has follower's who hang on his every word. If he says Haiti got what it paid for, his followers will turn their backs on those in dire need.
Even though it sounds like you've already made up your mind that this is fear mongering, there have been two 100 year floods in Iowa in the past decade and hurricaine Katrina, among other hurricaines are what I (and some of the top climatologists in the world) believe are the result of human activity's effect on global climate.Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
Minute changes in the upper atmosphere have a compounded effect on what we experience in weather.
Its not going to cause earthquakes, but in terms of moisture distribution and force winds it has a huge global effect.
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Originally Posted by ZMKA
Well, by subsidising farmers to grow corn for ethanol instead of food, the global warming agenda is starving millions in the name of green feul! So I guess it has already killed people.Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
You're thinking of congress, dude. They're the ones who are subsidizing corn... and not for fuel. Its to feed cows. So if you want to help starving people, stop eating meat.Quote:
Originally Posted by davisbonanza
You're right, I was thinking about congress, most of those useless critters are pushing the man made climate change agenda. Food for feul is an issue but here's some good reading on the Myths of VegetarianismQuote:
Originally Posted by ZMKA
Thanks for the enlightening information. And thanks for aligning your opinion through a different scope, since your "feul"-based opinion had no factual basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by davisbonanza
FYI I'm not pregnant. There is no reason for me to worry about a miscarraige, although I appreciate your concern.
At risk of hijacking the thread, please enjoy the enlightening video featured here, narrated by former Beatle (and vegetarian activist), Sir Paul McCartney.
I'd post some info about obesity in America as a retort to your "sound science" presented in the article above, but I fear it would be redundant rhetoric about saturated fats, high glycemic levels, the fact that 30% of children in America are overweight or obese... which vegetarianism could change... but alas, thats just more left wing agenda crap designed to support the umm... organic farmers industry... or something.
This is some of what I deciphered from his comment. "What happened in Haiti could happen to anywhere in the Caribbean because all these island nations are in peril because of global warming. When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I'm sayin'?"
Instead of a concerned peace activist you now look to the world like just another pathetic former star desperately grasping at fame as it slips away from you, willing to be one of Al Gore's "useful idiots" to spend a few more seconds in the light.
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Originally Posted by ZMKA
We're feeding ethanol to cows, now? Whodathunkit...