Thread: Losing all hope for humanity...

It is sad and very common these days that some people are just totally lost in being a parent for their children or then they just doesn't care. Too many kids grow without proper limits and far too much television and internet.

My wife works at the psychiatric care for children and she surely has to witness almost every day this kind of behavior and worse.
When parents get too tired of their daily worries or have any other kinds of problems in their life it reflects into their children as well.

It is the sign of these times. I fear it is getting worse. When children have no decent role model of adult behavior then how can they in time raise their own children?

I'd expect the townfolk of "Yorkshite" to know some profanity at a young age

Originally Posted by Sailor

When children have no decent role model of adult behavior then how can they in time raise their own children?

Look at what they are exposed to on TV, movies and especially the internet ... unless they are supervised. There has been a definite coarsening of the culture over the course of my 61 years. Look at the popularity of "The Sopranos".

I've seen critics refer to it as the 'best' TV series ever made. Murder, rape, foul language abounding and the glorification of criminals and their lifestyle. I've read that we can judge a society by their art .... historically speaking that is. Where does that leave us ?

From what I have seen, the problem is this world of self help books, doctor phils, and oprahs which are causing the problems. When my cousin was born, my Aunt attempted to raise my cousin in the fashion dictated in these crack pot books. "Don't call your child, or your childs' actions bad, they may begin to believe they are bad people. Call them naughty" " Never hit your child" "time outs should be short, and you the parent should sit in the room with the child and discuss the problem with them"

What a load of bull. I'm not saying that kids should get beat to a pulp, but on the rare occasions when I was so bad that my parents had to get physical, a few smacks across my bumb really made me think about what I had done.

The time outs my cousin got were a joke. She wouldn't be in that room for more then a minute before my Aunt went in and apologized. When I got a time out, I sat in the corner for 45 minutes, which was enough time for me to realize that bad behavior results in unsavory consequences.

How did it all end up you ask? My cousin is constantly in trouble, reigning havock through the house.

I work three jobs, have great credit, pay my bills, keep my girlfriend happy, well I think I do at least.

Parents need to stop being affraid of screwing their kids up. Lay down some rules and guidelines, because as many have said before, the home and our parents teach us the fundementals of the world at large.

Originally Posted by freyguy

Parents need to stop being affraid of screwing their kids up. Lay down some rules and guidelines, because as many have said before, the home and our parents teach us the fundementals of the world at large.

I disagree... Parents need to be MORE afraid of screwing their kids up, and realize that NOT punishing them IS what's screwing them up.

I agree with everything else you said... But kids have to start getting hit >.<

I was hit, I am not messed up -outside of personality quirks that are native to me, not produced by environment- and I am actually quite proud to say my father disciplined me well, so I can behave well/respectably. And I will do the same to my kid.

Just my feelings though

It's so easy to blame the parents, but if it's true that it takes a village to raise a child, it's clear that we live in a village that just doesn't give a damn. Where would a child learn such disrespect and such languge? Let's see, maybe the internet, TV, movies, videos, magazines, and let's not rule out even the local library. And how about movie trailers they might come upon on their parents' computer?

Hmm... Maybe I should have phrased that better... I didn't mean to say that my father was prone to hitting me when I misbehaved... He did it rarely -I'd say a few times a year... But I was a stubborn lad- The only time he'd used anything other than his hand, well, there were a few situations, but let me explain: He only hit me with a belt once, and lightly, and this was after I had -as an act of rebellion towards a previous punishment- set up a row of what I now know to be my grandmother's antique china (stupid, Jeremy, STUPID) and threw rocks at them, breakign them... To this day I still feel terribly guilty for that, and think the belt was wholly deserved... After that instance, if I was misbehaving and he snapped his belt (Y'know, fold it in half, hold both ends and pop it) I'd stop whatever I was doing, stare at him, and get ready to follow the next thing out of his mouth to a T. He never used the belt again other than like that. Also, He never hit me more than a light cuff on the ear, or a good swat on the rear...

I know some parents take it too far, but I will never grudge what he did.

Cheers,
Jeremy

You have to bear in mind though, that this was in Leeds.

Originally Posted by BigIan

I was Just stood on my front doorstep having a cigarette when a young girl who could only have been 4 or 5 walked mast and said "what the **** are you looking at knob head."

Seriously what is the world coming to?

BigIan

I can't withold any longer. I've spent all day resisting, but it's futile. As a Man Utd supporter, there's only one conclusion to make...

clearly she is a LUFC fan.

Originally Posted by majurey

BigIan

I can't withold any longer. I've spent all day resisting, but it's futile. As a Man Utd supporter, there's only one conclusion to make...

clearly she is a LUFC fan.

I'm surprised that she didn't offend you further by singing "Marching on together' as she walked away!!