Thread: Qualifications for parents

Originally Posted by welshwizard

To many people, some behaviour is just plain unnatural and wrong.

Please, do not use the 'unnatural' argument in a discussion about homosexuality. Just don't.
There is NOTHING that humans can do that a significant percentage of the animal kingdom isn't doing also.

Homosexuality happens in at least 1500 different species.
Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not saying that you are not allowed to call it wrong (you are) but don't call it unnatural because then ou are just just plain wrong.
Many othe rspecies perform oral sex and gay oral sex, and one type of squirrel has oral sex with itself. And we all know what the praying mantis does

Originally Posted by Bruno

There is NOTHING that humans can do that a significant percentage of the animal kingdom isn't doing also.

Homosexuality happens in at least 1500 different species.

But a lot of animals also eat their own...

I am not saying it is right or wrong.
But practically any sexual act imaginable happens in hundreds or thousands of species. So to say that it is unnatural is wrong.

Eating kids is natural yet wrong.
Protecting kids is natural and right.
Natural has no bearing on right or wrong.

Originally Posted by Bruno

I am not saying it is right or wrong.
But practically any sexual act imaginable happens in hundreds or thousands of species. So to say that it is unnatural is wrong.

Eating kids is natural yet wrong.
Protecting kids is natural and right.
Natural has no bearing on right or wrong.

Bruno, I guess I just don't understand how this helped out the discussion in this thread. What you pointed out is a fact but actually irrelevant. Plus the last time I checked we are more than just an animal. Help me out if I didn't get what you were trying to convey.

Half of this thread is irrelevant to the OP.

All Bruno was asking is that homosexuality not be referred to as unnatural. You can refer to it as wrong, immoral, evil, etc... but that it is incorrect to refer to it as unnatural.

Originally Posted by HNSB

Half of this thread is irrelevant to the OP.

All Bruno was asking is that homosexuality not be referred to as unnatural. You can refer to it as wrong, immoral, evil, etc... but that it is incorrect to refer to it as unnatural.

Stemming off the claim a while back that raising children in a religious home is the same as child abuse.

Originally Posted by bbshriver

Stemming off the claim a while back that raising children in a religious home is the same as child abuse.

I wasn't saying it was bad to be off topic... I was just addressing a comment that someone else's comments were irrelevant because they were off topic.

Originally Posted by frank47

Bruno, I guess I just don't understand how this helped out the discussion in this thread. What you pointed out is a fact but actually irrelevant. Plus the last time I checked we are more than just an animal. Help me out if I didn't get what you were trying to convey.

Well, in an earlier post, welshwizrd called homosexuality unnatural and wrong. And I have known several people call homosexuality wrong because it is unnatural.

But it isn't unnatural.
So if someone says it is wrong because it is unnatural, then they were either just making up arguments to support their moral ideas, or they will revise their judgement. I still don't say that it is wrong to think that homosexuality is wrong. But if someone tries to underpin it with reason instead of opinion, then those reasons had better check out.

Since people are getting into the reasons why homosexuality is wrong (or not) I wanted to remove the naturality from the list of arguments.

IOW just stick with this argument:
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