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    Quote Originally Posted by joesixpack View Post
    That doesn't really ever work. Look at Jimmy the Greek, Mel Gibson, and even Jessie Jason (remember how "Hymietown" wrecked his presidential bid way back when?)
    biden uses the hell out of his.......

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    I get more insight from watching TCM(Turner Classic Movies) than any of the dummied down news cycles. Silver Screen films from the late 20s and 30s in particular show how little things have changed and just maybe where we will be down the road.
    It is funny to hear the same arguments of progressive vs consrvative they used in there dialogue. All the old generation thought the younder ones being a lost cause, Wall street buying out politicans.
    Lionel Barrymore, Jimmy Stuart, Jean Arthur, now they could tell the news.

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    i wish i had a press agent.... so when i say something insensitive or stupid they could tell everyone what i really meant instead of what actually came out of my mouth........
    Meh, I wouldn't worry about it unless you're running for office. A bit of contention makes a thread more interesting IMO. As long as there is no name calling or references to someones mother. Well, maybe name some calling, as long as its funny. Maybe make a rule that people can curse at each other in threads, but they have to use antiquated British slang.

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    This bickering is what I don't get. Why on earth does a news channel have to have political bias at all?
    What I like about Belgian news is that news is just reported, not commented on. Regardless of which channel you listen to / view, you get similar topics, reported on in a simlar way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    This bickering is what I don't get. Why on earth does a news channel have to have political bias at all?
    What I like about Belgian news is that news is just reported, not commented on. Regardless of which channel you listen to / view, you get similar topics, reported on in a simlar way.
    The bias and bickering are intentional IMO, designed to divide the populace into smaller opposing groups, once divided, easily conquered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    This bickering is what I don't get. Why on earth does a news channel have to have political bias at all?
    What I like about Belgian news is that news is just reported, not commented on. Regardless of which channel you listen to / view, you get similar topics, reported on in a simlar way.
    that is the heart of the matter............. you hit is squarely on the head.... opinions of the "reporters" should be kept out.....

    but here in the usa we have the nancy graces *(#1 candidate for "tack hammer to the forehead" award) and "the view" the anderson coopers and and and and..... all it is anymore is opinion.... there are little/no actual "here is how it happened" facts being reported..... now it is always "here is kinda sorta what happened but this is what should have happened in my opinion and you should listen to me because i talk loud and act concerned".....

    like the casey anthony trial........ and oj simpson......... they had these people guilty on the news program... "reporting" half truths and speculation as facts.... then when they are acquitted for lack of evidence these talking heads were incredulous and almost started a mob riot to go get casey..... they DID start a riot for oj....

    something has to be done....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Why on earth does a news channel have to have political bias at all?
    Because it pays. The 'news' is private enterprise in the US. People may say they don't like it, but they keep watching it So even the non profit organizations need some bias in order to compete for audience. I think it's like the phenomenon of how many people say we need to throw out Congress and get new reps, but then vote almost all of the same people back in next election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    Because it pays. The 'news' is private enterprise in the US. People may say they don't like it, but they keep watching it So even the non profit organizations need some bias in order to compete for audience. I think it's like the phenomenon of how many people say we need to throw out Congress and get new reps, but then vote almost all of the same people back in next election.
    This is exactly the core issue. The trouble is that most Americans are so mistrustful of their government that the idea of a "socialized" news network is about at popular as a state run church.

    In a free market, a boring news source is not going to do well except for people who absolutely NEED the most reliable source of news. Just like NOAA weather radio, it doesn't have to be entertaining, just accurate. This is why (until very recently, that is) the WSJ was about the best source of news in North America. It was written for people who needed to make decisions on where they would invest or how they would run their business. Money knows no ideology, so the emphasis was on un-spun facts (the editorial page was a different matter altogether, but that's the editorial page). Over the past decade however, it has instead changed it's target demographic to conservative yuppies in hopes of increasing it's readership (advertising being it's most important source of revenue, it needs higher circulation numbers). The Economist magazine is, sadly, going that direction as well. Still good (as far as print goes) is the Financial Times.

    Broadcast journalism is now little more than entertainment, though. I have to agree with you there. Even the BBC has the polished feel of many of the commercial outlets, and many of the same fluff stories that go along with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    This bickering is what I don't get. Why on earth does a news channel have to have political bias at all?
    What I like about Belgian news is that news is just reported, not commented on. Regardless of which channel you listen to / view, you get similar topics, reported on in a simlar way.
    Why doesn't Belga have an English service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joesixpack View Post
    Why doesn't Belga have an English service?
    Cannot speak for Belga in special but not all European news agencies have English services. Some, specially the big ones do, but most doesn't as their broadcast are usually targeted on domestic audiences. Some, but not all have short daily broadcasts in foreign languages 2-4 times a day.
    Although English is a sort of a world language, not all in Europe speak it. In some countries not even most people understand it. Excluding UK and Ireland English is not an official language in any European country.
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