Thread: This is Lame! More Neutering of the American Male!

Originally Posted by paco664

actually you are wrong... we do NOT live in a democracy... we live in a republic.....

actually you just got trolled... by a gormless twit......

Originally Posted by paco664

the founding fathers were great men and genius's and what they laid out for this country has lasted 240ish years but in the last 20 years the country has gotten perverted and twisted........ we need to go back to what their visions were..... the path we are on is the path to destruction.......

For a real eye opener read "John Adams" by David McCullough, or "Founding Brothers" by Joseph Ellis. The disputes and partisanship were there from the beginning. An example being the vice president of the USA killing the secretary of the treasury in a duel. It went downhill from there if your read the history rather than the myth.

Originally Posted by paco664

actually you are wrong... we do NOT live in a democracy... we live in a republic.....

democracy is "majority rules"......

republic is "we vote people to represent us and trust them to do in our best interest"........

You could say you have a constitutional republic that is a representative democracy. Other terms for this form of government include liberal democracy and constitutional democracy. In your presidential elections, it is usually "majority rules" due to their being only two main candidates, though in many local and regional elections, you would be more accurate to say that "plurality rules". That's what we get up here in Canada, where in our recent provincial elections we ended up with a "minority government". One of the three main parties got the most seats, but not more than the other two parties combined, so they aren't the majority, but they have the most seats and, thus, form the government.

If you went through newspaper archives, every generation probably think the next generation is ruining this country. I imagine radio was the devil. Then television. Then video games. Then the internet.

Originally Posted by paco664

actually you are wrong... we do NOT live in a democracy... we live in a republic.....

democracy is "majority rules"......

republic is "we vote people to represent us and trust them to do in our best interest"........

the founding fathers were great men and genius's and what they laid out for this country has lasted 240ish years but in the last 20 years the country has gotten perverted and twisted........ we need to go back to what their visions were..... the path we are on is the path to destruction.......

That's a technicality.

For example the presidency: these days you don't really elect the electoral college. You elect whom they will vote for. I would be suprised if voters actually knew 'who' their electoral voters were. The EC is a technicality that only matters in the sense that voters in some states outweigh other voters in significance.

Even then, the popular vote is almost always equal to the electoral vote, and many states have laws against the electoral college deviating from the popular vote. By and large, it is a moot point.

For all practical purposes, the majority in the US does rule. The only reason democrats and republicans alternate the presidency is that the voters usually get sick of whoever is in charge, and pick the other party in the hopes that things will be better.

EDIT:
The above is for the presidency. But it works at all levels. most of the Americans will either vote for someone because he belongs to the right party; not for their wisdom.

Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

If you went through newspaper archives, every generation probably think the next generation is ruining this country. I imagine radio was the devil. Then television. Then video games. Then the internet.

Burn those books, burn those records, burn those CDs, burn those internets!

Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

If you went through newspaper archives, every generation probably think the next generation is ruining this country. I imagine radio was the devil. Then television. Then video games. Then the internet.

Actually it was central heating and air conditioning. Since the advent of these the govt, nor its bureaucracy has had to shut down and go home during the recesses. The horrid winters and summers, as well as the malaria/cholera outbreaks of the DC area demanded these breaks. No more breaks means that they have all year to screw things up. The pols used to be forced to go home where they would get an earful from their constituents. A check and balance in our government has been eliminated.

I would just like to point out what I perceive to be a glaring oversight by all of you with regard to this topic. I feel it is necessary to clear some things up. Shame on you for letting the inaccuracies persist this long.

It's called "two girls, one cup." There is not, nor has there ever been, a bowl. To imply--much less contend--that a bowl is used is dishonest and shameful.

I was hoping it would just fade away from the conversation.

Originally Posted by Jimbo7

I would just like to point out what I perceive to be a glaring oversight by all of you with regard to this topic. I feel it is necessary to clear some things up. Shame on you for letting the inaccuracies persist this long.

It's called "two girls, one cup." There is not, nor has there ever been, a bowl. To imply--much less contend--that a bowl is used is dishonest and shameful.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

Actually it was central heating and air conditioning. Since the advent of these the govt, nor its bureaucracy has had to shut down and go home during the recesses. The horrid winters and summers, as well as the malaria/cholera outbreaks of the DC area demanded these breaks. No more breaks means that they have all year to screw things up. The pols used to be forced to go home where they would get an earful from their constituents. A check and balance in our government has been eliminated.

The 24 hour news cycle is another thing. This has made us , the public, a beast that needs to be fed constantly. The media seizes upon anything it can exploit to stoke the fires. When the news was thirty minutes in the morning, afternoon and evening, and most people got their info from newspapers, there was less hyperbole and more facts. We are overloaded with information and much of it B/S to push an agenda from one side or the other.