Thread: Trayvon Martin (pardon me if this subject is verboten.)

I really have no opinion on this (except I think it's unfortunate when anyone gets killed, whether by their own wrong doing or the shooter) until as much of it will be out in the open as possible...and even then, depending on what comes out...I still may not have any more of an opinion.

However, I think it's worth mentioning the tweet above are lyrics from a song called "Luxury Sport". Not exactly sure how questionable taste in music factors into the discussion at all...

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Or was he carrying illegally concealed and this becomes a whole different case ???

if he was illegally CCW, it'd be huge since ~day 1... the fact that it isn't suggests a legit CCW/CHL .. (and i read everywhere that GZ had permit and may still have it)

according to state [FL] regulations, unless a person is convicted of a felony, a concealed weapons permit cannot be revoked.

Originally Posted by ryanjewell

I really have no opinion on this (except I think it's unfortunate when anyone gets killed, whether by their own wrong doing or the shooter) until as much of it will be out in the open as possible...and even then, depending on what comes out...I still may not have any more of an opinion.

However, I think it's worth mentioning the tweet above are lyrics from a song called "Luxury Sport". Not exactly sure how questionable taste in music factors into the discussion at all...

Listening to music is one thing, posting the lyrics means that you like them and agree with them, IMO.

This song is about as racist as it gets.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Listening to music is one thing, posting the lyrics means that you like them and agree with them, IMO.

This song is about as racist as it gets.

claiming tweets of lyrics as insight into personal philosophy seems highly speculative. Which, to me, that kind of speculation is part of what is contributing to the cluster@&$" this has become.

If you want insight into character why not talk about him getting suspended for weed or something? I'm not saying the kid was an angel, but I stay away from drawing conclusions from something like lyrics being tweeted. He's not here to explain it.

If I'm listening to the Beatles and Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds is on, strikes my fancy for whatever reason, and I post a lyric from it...I would be mildly peeved if people automatically assumed I'm a crazed acid user who favors legalization of drugs just because I like the tune...

Originally Posted by ryanjewell

claiming tweets of lyrics as insight into personal philosophy seems highly speculative. Which, to me, that kind of speculation is part of what is contributing to the cluster@&$" this has become.

If you want insight into character why not talk about him getting suspended for weed or something? I'm not saying the kid was an angel, but I stay away from drawing conclusions from something like lyrics being tweeted. He's not here to explain it.

If I'm listening to the Beatles and Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds is on, strikes my fancy for whatever reason, and I post a lyric from it...I would be mildly peeved if people automatically assumed I'm a crazed acid user who favors legalization of drugs just because I like the tune...

The best way to get to know someone is to read their writings. A person's writings are a revelation of him/herself. By my reading of Treyvon's writings, he was thug, or at a bear minimum a thug want-a-be. It is not beyond the bounds of reason that a person that would tweet such a misogynistic lyric would be the aggressor in this confrontation.

Wonder how this whole convo would shake out if he was a white Kid? just sayin.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Wonder how this whole convo would shake out if he was a white Kid? just sayin.

We would not be having a conversation; we would not have known of the shooting.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

We would not be having a conversation; we would not have known of the shooting.

Sadly,is a lot of truth to that

Originally Posted by Hirlau

We would not be having a conversation; we would not have known of the shooting.

We would not be having this conversation if the media and Sharpton hadn't decided to make money off of it.

I agree,
but a lot of factors have played into this situation; first, if not least, the parent's loss of a loved one.
Regardless of the facts on either side, there is a void left in the parent's lives. A void, that the parents do not know how to fill and outside forces more than willing to fill that void with whatever suits their agenda.

I don't know how I would react if my son ended up on losing side of a confrontation. I would like to think, that I would take the high road and move on in life, creating as little sorrow and disruption to others as possible. But , I have been consumed by negative emotion, in situations far less serious.

I am fortunate enough to have a lot of time with my son each day. I spend a lot of it on scenario based training; hoping that something I have said might ring loud in his head at the right moment; preventing a void in my life.