Thread: Ultimate Test of Civility ~ 2nd Amendment

Another thing to consider is not everyone
lives in an area with cell phone service.
So if they cut my phone line, I'm SOL.

Also, no street address. Giving the 911
operator directions to Vernon Hollow Rd.
on Hewett the second house up the
hollar on the left. It wouldn't be good
or fast.

A shot gun is definately comforting to
have at the head of my bed.



Terry

Originally Posted by wvbias

Another thing to consider is not everyone
lives in an area with cell phone service.
So if they cut my phone line, I'm SOL.

Also, no street address. Giving the 911
operator directions to Vernon Hollow Rd.
on Hewett the second house up the
hollar on the left. It wouldn't be good
or fast.

A shot gun is definately comforting to
have at the head of my bed.



Terry

Terry its really all the same...we have to wait around an hour for 911 to show up just like you do...the only difference is they are 10 times as close and 10 times as busy lol...so it all balances out to 0 in the end

Originally Posted by Sec162

Oh oh oh, this one is for you also.




I agree more parents need to have a hands on approach.

If you smack the shit out of them when they're small, they won't be full of it when they're grown.

Originally Posted by Sec162

Not to worry JL, you wont need a firearm against worms. A Red Rider will work fine, but of course you know "you'll shoot your eye out"!

Actually along with being a gun nut, Im also an animal lover...so I wont kill or injure anything unless I am planning on eating it, or it is planning on eating me. So, the rest of the time I am one of those really annoying people that gets a glass and catches the worm or spider or bug in the glass and releases it outside....god that pissed my wife off, ohwell...I believe in karma and that other living things have the natural right to life that I do, as long as they dont fall into one of the two catagories above...then I beleive dawrinism wins out over karma lol

Originally Posted by Joe Chandler

If you smack the shit out of them when they're small, they won't be full of it when they're grown.

LMFAO

It seems interesting, to say the least, that the law enforcement guys here defend the right to have guns even though they would be the ones most affected by the illegal use of them.

Sec162... nice worms.

Joe... The statement you made below was a gem. Where did you steal it?

If humans are inherently fallible, and power corrupts, then wouldn't the readily available means to correct that imbalance be an absolute necessity?

Originally Posted by urleebird

It seems interesting, to say the least, that the law enforcement guys here defend the right to have guns even though they would be the ones most affected by the illegal use of them.

Sec162... nice worms.

Joe... The statement you made below was a gem. Where did you steal it?

Made that one up all on my lonesome.

Originally Posted by Joe Chandler

...
The first thing Hitler and Stalin did when they took over was to disarm the populace. Once the populace didn't have the psychological edge owning the means to defend themselves against a superior force brings, they became sheep, easily led through cowardice to resistance. Your old signature used to say (paraphrased) that the downfall of any system of government was that it was run by humans. What happened to that philosophy? If humans are inherently fallible, and power corrupts, then wouldn't the readily available means to correct that imbalance be an absolute necessity? Bottom line (and I'm a police officer...for the government) is that if the government has guns, I want them. If only the police have guns, you live in a police state. It is the right...screw that...it's the responsibility of every man to defend himself and his family from those who would do them harm. To rely on the government to do it for you is the most insidious form of cowardice imaginable. Police respond to crimes, usually too late to help you or the ones you love. It's up to you to defend them.

Jo,

I agree that people have the right to defend themselves, and if in your society that means use of arms, then that's what you need to do.

Hitler and Stalin also did something I find more insidious: they threw away the right to a fair trial. I understand why the US is taking the stand it is, but what's going on in Guantanamo Bay appears to outsiders as very, very close to crossing a line.

My point is that you can hold your 2nd ammendment up as an effective and "readily available means" to redress imbalances between infalibility and corruptness, but if you can't see the imbalances, what good is it?

James.

Glad you like the worms, just tyring to interject a little humore in all this. I am sick of arguing, can't we all just get along This is old but apparently when it came out certain groups were outraged that a product to cater to gang bangers was created! Well of course it was just a joke that someone came up with.

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-gag.html



The they G's were right all along, you need to kant your weapon at a 45 degree angle when shooting unsupported to lock your arm out and make a more stable shooting platform

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Jo,

I agree that people have the right to defend themselves, and if in your society that means use of arms, then that's what you need to do.

Hitler and Stalin also did something I find more insidious: they threw away the right to a fair trial. I understand why the US is taking the stand it is, but what's going on in Guantanamo Bay appears to outsiders as very, very close to crossing a line.

My point is that you can hold your 2nd ammendment up as an effective and "readily available means" to redress imbalances between infalibility and corruptness, but if you can't see the imbalances, what good is it?

James.

I really don't get the whole Guantanamo thing. They were caught bering arms against the soldiers of the US while acting for the losing side in a war. They are for sure Guilty of that and it is quite often fatal, no trial needed.

Why so many of them were brought over her I don't know they should either be shot or let go not debated over and certanly not given the same rights as a citizen.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Jo,

I agree that people have the right to defend themselves, and if in your society that means use of arms, then that's what you need to do.

Hitler and Stalin also did something I find more insidious: they threw away the right to a fair trial. I understand why the US is taking the stand it is, but what's going on in Guantanamo Bay appears to outsiders as very, very close to crossing a line.

My point is that you can hold your 2nd ammendment up as an effective and "readily available means" to redress imbalances between infalibility and corruptness, but if you can't see the imbalances, what good is it?

James.

It depends where your priorities are, Im not ready to put my life on the line for the #*$%@# in Gitmo. they are POW accross enemy lines, and I would be much more worried about what we are doing in all the areas you don't hear about. Take everything you hear and multiply it several times, that will give you a much better understand of what the governments of several countries arent telling you. however, I have a responsibility to myself, my family, and my fellow patriots, thats where my priorities stop.