Thread: A father's Love and Rage

He did his community a favor. He should be hoisted upon the shoulders of his local townfolk and paraded through town. I mean that too! No telling the amount of other children were attacked by this monster, nor if he lived how many more would be either. Those that would attack children deserve neither pity nor leniency. They need a rope and a tree.

Originally Posted by EMC45

He did his community a favor. He should be hoisted upon the shoulders of his local townfolk and paraded through town. I mean that too! No telling the amount of other children were attacked by this monster, nor if he lived how many more would be either. Those that would attack children deserve neither pity nor leniency. They need a rope and a tree.

Agreed, and you know down here in GA you don't need the whole tree, just a stump out in the woods. The traditional southern punishment for such an act was to nail his "credentials" to the stump and give him a very dull knife when you leave him.

I'm with you on they one, I'm against a state imposed death penalty. But I am absolutely for the ability and the right to protect your family, including deadly force if it's warranted. I certainly feel catching the guy literally in the act would certainly warrant deadly force. I don't think any parent would do otherwise in the same situation, regardless of potential penalty to themselves, and I don't feel like they should be punished for it. But I still don't think the state should be in charge off who lives and who dies.

A very good friend of mine got into an altercation at a bar, got hit, hit back once knocking the guy out and causing him to fracturing the rear of his skull hitting the ground. Guy nearly died in hospital from swelling, and suffered permenant brain damage.
Was charged with assult and got probation.
Its quite easy to knock out or be knocked out, its usually the fall that kills.

I believe the Father did the right thing. No need for a lengthy trial to put that poor girl through anymore mental pain just so he has the option to walk or get a reduced sentence only to repeat this crime again.

I feel that kind of person has a mental illness and no amount of jail time or rehab would change it. This way, the cycle stops for that man.

It's a difficult case and evokes very strong feelings. I have a daughter, now grown up, and it's likely that I would have done the same in the heat of the moment.
In most cases mob rule and summary justice are a very bad thing, not least because in many cases the target is often innocent.
In the UK a young man has just been released from prison because in the light of new evidence, it is now clear that he didn't commit the murder he was jailed for. He 'only' lost 5yrs of freedom, what if he'd been executed?
Granted, living by the rule of law in civilised society has its drawbacks, but the alternative would be a lot worse.

Originally Posted by welshwizard

It's a difficult case and evokes very strong feelings. I have a daughter, now grown up, and it's likely that I would have done the same in the heat of the moment.
In most cases mob rule and summary justice are a very bad thing, not least because in many cases the target is often innocent.

My opposition to the death penalty stems largely from cases that will be well know to fellow Canadians: Donald Marshall Jr., Guy Paul Morin, and David Milgaard are just three well known examples of innocent people convicted wrongfully of heinous crimes. If we had the death penalty, there is a good chance that all three would themselves have been wrongfully executed.

"...Late breaking story on the CBC
A nation whispers, we always knew that he'd go free"

Couldn't resist a Hip reference...

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Last weekend, Shiner Texas.

A 23 year old man was doing some work on his farm with some acquaintances helping.

He handed his 4 year old daughter a bucket of feed and told her to go in the barn and feed the chickens.

Apparently a 40 year old acquaintance he didn't know very well lead his daughter into the bushes and started to sexually molest her.

The brother spotted them and told the father. The father saw them and hit the man several times in the head. The molester died at the scene.

The father has not been arrested. The police expect the grand jury to no-bill the father.

Did the father cross the line? Did the molester get what he deserved?

I think the hinge on this is, did the father continue to beat the molester after he went limp? I mean if the dad cracked the molester 5 or 6 times in quick succession and reasonably stopped when he noticed the other individual went limp (give a bit of leeway for 1 or 2 blows in the heat of the moment). Then yea he should, he put the dude down and he wound up dead. However if the molester was knocked out on the first punch, and the dad knew the guy was out cold and in no way shape or form a threat. then the dad continued to beat him until he was dead. In this scenario it would be taking the law into his own hands, he was judge jury and excutioner. In the first case he defended his daughter and the guy wound up dead. IMHO that there is the hinge between justified & vigilanteeism(sp?) Anger is no justification for murder, otherwise everytime someone gets angry they can murder someone. I am sure someone was angry at you at some point in your life.

I used to bounce at a club for about three years, I've been in probably over a hundred bar fights. I used my jujitsu in every single one of them.

I agree that your brain doesn't function in a fit of rage. I completely agree with that, I've had that rage before in fact. But... training sort of allows you to remain calm and under control in similar situations because the hostilities are not as frightening our as foreign and your brain knows what to do on autopilot almost through countless repetition.

I still say the father did the right thing and his actions were totally excusable. And I do believe he was in a fit of blind rage.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Did the father cross the line? Did the molester get what he deserved?

No. Yes.

He caught him in the act for goodness sake. No since adding another worthless POS to the prison system and our hard earned tax dollars paying for his acts. I'm just glad this happened in the great State of Texas versus elsewhere.

Now I will read the rest of the thread to other opinions.