View Poll Results: Is the West in decline?

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    aka shooter74743 ScottGoodman's Avatar
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    Yes, the U.S. is in social decline. What happened to honor & morality?

    Yes, the U.S. is in financial decline as we are no longer a major player in manufacturing. You can't stay on top if you consume more and produce less.

    Yes, we are becoming more socialist every day with more and more government...should be less and less.

    No, you can't believe a dang thing the media reports or the words out of a politicians mouth. Everyone has their own personal twist/agenda when reporting "news".

    Sometimes I wonder why myself...but YES, I love my country. If I weren't connected globally, I would be really worried...but at least we here in the U.S. aren't the only ones dealing iwth the changing times...the world is changing no matter if we like it or not.
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    I chose other simply because, yes...we are currently in a decline.
    Then there will be some kind of boom.
    Then the bottom will fall out of that and there will be another decline.
    and so on and so forth.

    It's the way it's always been...and I'm sure every generation thinks they they have evolved enough or are smart enough to avoid the next decline, but they never do.

    I think they same thing goes socially/morally...Gen X says "eff it all!" and then the generation after that rebels against that and goes the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanjewell View Post
    I chose other simply because, yes...we are currently in a decline.
    Then there will be some kind of boom.
    Then the bottom will fall out of that and there will be another decline.
    and so on and so forth.

    It's the way it's always been...and I'm sure every generation thinks they they have evolved enough or are smart enough to avoid the next decline, but they never do.

    I think they same thing goes socially/morally...Gen X says "eff it all!" and then the generation after that rebels against that and goes the other way.
    Isn't it wild ? Those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it. We who saw the folly of our sacrificing 58,000 in Viet Nam, the imploding of the USSR contributed to by their ruinous action in Afghanistan ...... These things may as well have been the Peloponnesian war for all of the awareness of the general public and the media.

    Having gone through the decline caused by the Arab oil embargo in 1973 to '77, I often thought about the fact that young folks in the '90s had grown up in a boom. Never saw hard times. I knew the house of cards was bound to fall but hoped it would last at least until I was too old to care. Oh well .....

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    Moral decline, economic decline, religious decline or decline in a different area? So many things are declining, others are evolving or moving to a higher level. No culture has proved everlasting. No empire has been everlasting. Nor will the world we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus View Post
    earcutter:
    Talk about a loaded question! It's analysis time:
    1. Define "the West." West what? West of what?
    2. Define "decline." Geologically? Tectonically? Hockey-ically?
    This....China is the West from America....America is the West from Europe....and Europe is the West from China.....seems to me everyone must be the West. Guess we must all be in "decline".
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    Quote Originally Posted by LX_Emergency View Post
    This....China is the West from America....America is the West from Europe....and Europe is the West from China.....seems to me everyone must be the West. Guess we must all be in "decline".
    Also depends how to describe 'West' in the op. Is the 'west' just USA (then we should name the thread as 'Decline of the USA) or does it include all western democracies (EU/Australia/NZ/Japan/South Africa etc)?

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    I'm ready for the times to get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LX_Emergency View Post
    This....China is the West from America....America is the West from Europe....and Europe is the West from China.....seems to me everyone must be the West. Guess we must all be in "decline".
    LOL! Some times when you think too much... any question becomes vague! I guess that's why so many contracts are pages and pages worth of bla, bla, bla LOL.

    As an aside - I can't remember where I was reading it (I'll try to find it), in the past ten years, the world has seen more people pulled out of the clutches of poverty than ever before in history.

    When I speak of the West - the most concise I can be I suppose would be the G8 minus Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnus View Post
    I'm ready for the times to get better.
    On the radio today I heard that many people in India and Africa subsist on $2.00 per day. Here in the USA, and no doubt in much of the Western world (what has traditionally been known as) even people in poverty are materially better off than those in the same boat in previous generations. At least that is my impression based on dwellings with television sets and such.
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