Thread: USA Gun Laws Poll

Bob, we are separated by a border though our continent is one. As far as our way of living as opposed to yours , we may as well be on another planet. The reason that the OP set the poll up for votes to display whether the voter was in the USA or not was because of this fact. It ain't a 'one world government' yet. Glad I'm too old to ever see that eventuality. Do your polls account for the hells angels of Quebec and the mass of killings ..... with guns... perpetrated by them back thirty years ago ? Illegal guns by Canadian laws. How many 'rampage killings' such as this most recent in Aurora, CO have occurred on Canadian or British Columbian soil in the past 40 yearsin spite of your gun control ? I vaguely remember that there have been some incidents. Inquiring minds want to know.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Bob, we are separated by a border though our continent is one. As far as our way of living as opposed to yours , we may as well be on another planet. The reason that the OP set the poll up for votes to display whether the voter was in the USA or not was because of this fact. It ain't a 'one world government' yet. Glad I'm too old to ever see that eventuality. Do your polls account for the hells angels of Quebec and the mass of killings ..... with guns... perpetrated by them back thirty years ago ? Illegal guns by Canadian laws. How many 'rampage killings' such as this most recent in Aurora, CO have occurred on Canadian or British Columbian soil in the past 40 yearsin spite of your gun control ? I vaguely remember that there have been some incidents. Inquiring minds want to know.

Tons - this one hit home as it was next door to my mother in law - Timeline of the Bandidos massacre - Canada - CBC News

Look guys the United Nations report is for homicides/murders nor matter who does them. BC is part of Canada last time I looked. Yea we do have gang and drug related homicides/murders despite some pretty restrictive gun laws. I already said I did not think any more would help here. In spite of gang and drug related homicides/murders being included in the stats we and most of the other peer group countries wind up with much lower per capita homicide/murder rates. Yea, we are neighbors and share a continent and what and how the other side lives makes no difference to me personally. If you don't believe you have a problem compared to other similar countries, then you don't. As a neighbour I personally think you do but again so what, you are comfortable with what you have. We have much the same problems just on a smaller scale. The real why is any body's guess, yours being as good as mine. If it makes you feel any better I believe Stats Can says we have more B&E and auto thefts per capita than you do. Yea I know, if more people were armed here and the cost of thieving were a little higher because of that the incidents would decrease. Tell you what though, neighbours are allowed to disagree but if your house was on fire I would still lend you a hose. Nite all.

Bob

A knife wielding lunatic was stopped in Utah by a man with a gun. Stabbed 2 people, one in the guts and the other in the head. The man with the gun said drop the knife or I will shoot you. More guns less crime. Apparently the looney bought the knife in the Smith's grocery store and commenced to stabbing folks upon their exit of the store in the foyer. I think we need stricter knife control now. This proves it....Nearby me there was a looney in the Home Depot who repeatedly was harassing a man and following him around the store. Well the looney, after harassing this man, grabbed a hammer to hit the man he was harassing. The victim of the harassment pulled his legally concealed handgun and double tapped the "the hammer" in the chest. The man who got shot went to jail and the shooter went home. I love a happy ending. More guns less crime. I think hammer control would be nice as well. Would make me feel "safer".

This thread is starting to go like the health care debate. People in the U.S who think our system is the best in the world and other countries with other systems are horrible even though the population in general love their systems. So, the folks here find the exceptions to spin the facts. In the end their just making themselves feel good.

Spender

With any issue that becomes polarized there is no way to find common ground and maybe improve things a least a little. A lot of times taking the adversarial approach to the extreme does not help in problem solving just creates a stalemate. Compromise has come to be a bad word. Anyone in a long standing and satisfying relationship knows that the art of compromise and tolerance go a long way to making it so. My second wife of 23 years is anti gun and anti hunting and I am not. We respect each others views and I think she is one of the finest people I have ever had the pleasure to meet. I still have guns in the house and that was never a problem so compromise does work in my case.

Bob

The elephant in the room that will not get discussed is the different in racial makeup of the different countries. If you sort out by race the US and Canada are not much different in murder rates. Blacks make up 12.4% of US but represent 50% of all of the murder victims( FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 1 ) 12,996 total what the FBI considers murder( if I read the table correct). 12,996 murders in US for a rate of about 4.2 per 100k, based on populatonof 308 million
Canada has 2.5 % Black population, but after some searching, turning up only the stat. of 554 murders ( 1.62 per 100k, based on population of 34 million), I was unable to see a stat. by race. is Canada too politically correct?. My only arguement about Crime in US vs. Canada, is that if you take out the slant of Blacks killing Blacks in the inter city mainly, our countries are much the same.
And most of this terrible black on black crime is done in the cities with the most strict gun laws.

Originally Posted by redrover66

The elephant in the room I was unable to see a stat. by race... is Canada too politically correct?.

Simply - Yes.

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