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    Quote Originally Posted by Wullie View Post
    ... Excuse me for thinking ahead a bit, but it damn sure looks like SOMETHING big is on the horizon.
    Yep, looks like more than one national government got the memo so what are they preparing for and what do the majority of the people do if they don't agree with that path? I don't know enough about 'it' to talk intelligently about it but I don't like the signs of 'it' I'm reading about.
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    There is a documentary called "The Flaw" on Netflix that provides another viewpoint about what the powers that be are really afraid of. Income inequality. The gap between the richest and the poorest is the greatest since 1929. What happens when the rich become even richer and the rest of us poorer and become more desperate. It stops becoming about ideology and more about eating and housing.

    The Flaw

    The movie gets it's title from the statement that Alan Greenspan made to Congress investigating the meltdown in 2008/09. "I found a flaw in model that defines how the world works. I was shocked."

    "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
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    I can envision several scenarios. All of them have a different cause, but the end result is pretty much the same and very ugly.

    I pray every night that I am wrong.

    In the meantime, I'll put my faith in the TEXAS STANDARD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wullie View Post
    I can envision several scenarios. All of them have a different cause, but the end result is pretty much the same and very ugly.

    I pray every night that I am wrong.

    In the meantime, I'll put my faith in the TEXAS STANDARD!
    Hey, how'd you get that picture of my relations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    Hey, how'd you get that picture of my relations?
    Este hombres estamos mi hermanos en armas.

    That's pretty much what my guardrail repair crew looks like when they're dressed up to go dancing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wullie View Post
    Este hombres estamos mi hermanos en armas.

    That's pretty much what my guardrail repair crew looks like when they're dressed up to go dancing.
    Remember that scene in Young guns when Brian Kieth comes out of the out house "OKay ladies....Let's dance !"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGilloon View Post
    There is a documentary called "The Flaw" on Netflix that provides another viewpoint about what the powers that be are really afraid of. Income inequality. The gap between the richest and the poorest is the greatest since 1929. What happens when the rich become even richer and the rest of us poorer and become more desperate. It stops becoming about ideology and more about eating and housing.

    The Flaw



    The movie gets it's title from the statement that Alan Greenspan made to Congress investigating the meltdown in 2008/09. "I found a flaw in model that defines how the world works. I was shocked."

    "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
    Anatole France
    Excuse me for being not so familiar with US politics (not that i really care) but that was an interesting link.
    Howevers, as far as i know, middle class seems to be the key.

    Up here, all political parties (we do not have 2 but about 20) seem to agree that ther is no point on making middle class smaller (richer, poorer).We do not have those who are really poor, unless willingly to step outside society and social networks, but still there seems to be a concensus on as long there's strong middle class, there is no need to be afraid of things getting too bad.
    Of course small minorities like extreme right wingers are doing their best to tell that we are doing worse than ever but hardly no-one believe. Specially when one parliament member of the right wing party suggested, fascinated Fukushima accident that No nuke plant should ever be built on the tectonic plate
    That is what their knowledge on real life is about.
    Been serving in a military for about 25 years (7 to go, i'm counting days) thus being a lower middle class. After doing some time with US troops in Kosova and SE Africa i was surprised on how much salary you folks are doing. We are about thirds.
    Still i'm doing ok here as long as i try not to reach clowds from the skies. Trying to get along with what i have, not what i could have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Also not to be really facetious but 174,000 rnds ain't all that much honestly, least not by Idaho standards
    I know some individuals who have more than that.. Per caliber.. But they're really into their sports shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Wullie View Post
    There has been ( at last accounting) aver 1.25 BILLION rounds of .40S&W JHP purchased by various/for agencies. Interesting that they are purchasing jacketed hollow point stuff AND in such large numbers. Hollow points are verboten for use in war per the Geneva Convention
    They're great for unarmored civilians though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Excuse me for being not so familiar with US politics (not that i really care) but that was an interesting link.
    Howevers, as far as i know, middle class seems to be the key.

    Up here, all political parties (we do not have 2 but about 20) seem to agree that ther is no point on making middle class smaller (richer, poorer).We do not have those who are really poor, unless willingly to step outside society and social networks, but still there seems to be a concensus on as long there's strong middle class, there is no need to be afraid of things getting too bad.
    Of course small minorities like extreme right wingers are doing their best to tell that we are doing worse than ever but hardly no-one believe. Specially when one parliament member of the right wing party suggested, fascinated Fukushima accident that No nuke plant should ever be built on the tectonic plate
    That is what their knowledge on real life is about.
    Been serving in a military for about 25 years (7 to go, i'm counting days) thus being a lower middle class. After doing some time with US troops in Kosova and SE Africa i was surprised on how much salary you folks are doing. We are about thirds.
    Still i'm doing ok here as long as i try not to reach clowds from the skies. Trying to get along with what i have, not what i could have.
    If I understand it correctly - your government provides a great deal more services to it's citizens than maybe the states do.
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    What the hell do's all this have to do with the dept of social security? I just got my first check yesterday and I get medicare in 4 mos.I waited 50 yrs for this stuff whats up?

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