Thread: I Voted....

Originally Posted by shooter74743

Sure are starting out on the wrong foot wanting to be an American if that's the way you feel. I would have hoped you wanted to live here in the United States of America because of how it is now & because you like it. If you like & love our country, want to become a citizen, why would you want to whine, bitch and moan? Just doesn't make since to me.

I don't want to whine. I want a say in how my taxes are spent.

Originally Posted by shooter74743

Sure are starting out on the wrong foot wanting to be an American if that's the way you feel. I would have hoped you wanted to live here in the United States of America because of how it is now & because you like it. If you like & love our country, want to become a citizen, why would you want to whine, bitch and moan? Just doesn't make since to me.

Ironically, the fact that you & I voted today, Shooter, gives MLA & others inside our boarders, the right to complain. I am glad he has that right; even though it wears on me sometimes.

I can't speak for MLA or other Canadians, never been to Canada; hope to make it there before I die,,but I've been to Eastern Europe a few times & married a woman from there. I deal with a lot of Eastern Europeans here with & without citizenships. Complaining about certain conditions in America appears to be common. At first, I felt as you, Shooter,,,thought about it a lot.
The one explanation I can came up with is; that here in America, they have a voice, people here listen. That's a good thing overall. They don't have to worry about a knock on their door at 2am, over a political statement they posted on the internet or a comment overheard at a diner.

In time, most transplants from other countries, adjust to America.
It's hardest on people like you & I who see America from a distant right viewpoint.

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

I don't want to whine. I want a say in how my taxes are spent.

I've yet to see that happen no matter where you live or who you vote for.

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

What about those of us on the path to citizenship? I pay a boatload+ in taxes, yet have no say! Don't I get to speak/gripe/bitch??? Besides, the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution grants everyone in the U.S.A. the right to freedom of speech. Citizenship is not a requirement for griping.

You must be a citizen to vote...not to bitch. The framers were not citizens until the Union was formed...but they bitched.

Originally Posted by d. m. ellington

Today I went to vote and I dedicated my vote to the U. S. Border Patrolman who lost his life defending our borders and also to the Foreign Service personnel and former Navy Seals who gave their lives in service to our country. The sacrifice they made will not be forgotten. Grace be to all the honorable men and women who serve in harms way so that we may be free.

Very nice.

Originally Posted by shooter74743

Sure are starting out on the wrong foot wanting to be an American if that's the way you feel. I would have hoped you wanted to live here in the United States of America because of how it is now & because you like it. If you like & love our country, want to become a citizen, why would you want to whine, bitch and moan? Just doesn't make since to me.

It started out that way:


The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies
Action of Second Continental Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.....

I have lived in lets see... 6 country's. And by live I mean spent more than two years there. In every country I have ever been in, bitching, moaning, and griping has been a national pass-time. Just read a newspaper.

It's a good thing me thinks. It shows involvement. It's those people who don't gripe, bitch, and moan that bother me. Complacency is exactly whats wrong with so many institutions from mom and pops stores, to big business, to government.

As a Canuck in the USA, I bitch and moan but I would hope that no one would ever take that to mean I don't love this country and want the best for it, and all it's citizens including my two Yankee kids! I have paid HUGE to be here, and I wouldn't ever change that though at times it's trying. I came here by choice, and Kansas has been very good to me... very good.

That's all to say thank you to all those people who have made me feel welcome here - I hope I can help make America a better country for all.

^^^ Sorry if that was a bit too mushy... :P ^^^

That's O.K., David.
My bottom lip did quiver for a moment, but I didn't drop a tear.

Sadly, I did not vote. I attempted to vote. I found out voting at the clerks office closed yesterday..hmm. So then they said I could go to my precint and vote. But they didn't have me on record as registering. So, after a couple hours of dogged determination that I was registered, and entitled, they produced a document I had signed in 2011, declining voter registration. So..I'm not feeling especially smart right now....But do I get any rights to complain later? Not that I'm much of a complainer..I just like to have the option.

Originally Posted by regularjoe

Sadly, I did not vote. I attempted to vote. I found out voting at the clerks office closed yesterday..hmm. So then they said I could go to my precint and vote. But they didn't have me on record as registering. So, after a couple hours of dogged determination that I was registered, and entitled, they produced a document I had signed in 2011, declining voter registration. So..I'm not feeling especially smart right now....But do I get any rights to complain later? Not that I'm much of a complainer..I just like to have the option.

Wow - that bites.

Today I voted along class lines. I voted for the guy that only owns one house. Like me.