Thread: Obama won re election

Originally Posted by Bruno

Otoh it would be strange for me NOT to care who is the US president. After all, who he is and what he does influences many things in my life, from the price of gas (wars tend to drive up oil prices) to the mortgage rate of my house. In contrast to that, what the PM of Belgium does or not does is hardly of any interest to you, because you won't notice one way of the other.

I would think that what China does influences you much much more, yet I have not seen a discussion about their Politics on this board yet, oh wait, they don't have open elections, nor do they allow Dissension, Women's rights, Health care, etc, etc, etc,

I wonder why what the US does is of a concern to the world, yet what China does is not ????

Originally Posted by Bruno

Glen, I will take those words to heart next time I am asked to vote in your elections

In all seriousness, I do have an honest question: why do those 3d party candidates run?
I mean, campaigning costs buckets of money. Which is all well for the big 2 because they both have oodles of money, and about 50% change to win, give or take a couple % based on the political arena at that particular time.

But what do people like Ron Paul get out of it?
They don't even have a snowball's chance in hell to win. But suppose through an act of god he did, he'd still be hamstrung because he has zero support in the house or the senate.

Actually Ron Paul ran as a Republican, it was so apparent to us here that he had no support when he was ignored completly by the media, they announced Romney's name and whoever was behind Paul, Ron Paul was in 1st 2nd or 3rd place during the entire cycle yet you never would have known he exsisted (He had huge support in what we call the "Fly over states" like mine that have no real political clout)

But to answer the question it is the 5% rule,,, If a 3rd party gets 5% of the National vote things change drastically and we might have a real chance at true change in the US ( I would have to pull up the actual election rules to say all the changes that happen at 5% I have never delved that deep in it) here is a bit about the monies (PECF)

Ross Perot was the last time there was even a shot at a 3rd party candidate (in my voting life time)

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I would think that what China does influences you much much more, yet I have not seen a discussion about their Politics on this board yet, oh wait, they don't have open elections, nor do they allow Dissension, Women's rights, Health care, etc, etc, etc,

I wonder why what the US does is of a concern to the world, yet what China does is not ????

Oh, we do discuss China quite a bit over here.
After the Nobel peace prize was given to one of their dissidents, they seem to have a horn in their sides towards this little corner of the world.
Ethiopia, Sudan, Syria and South Africa are other places that has seen quite a bit of news coverage lately...

On a US centric board like SRP, it would seem natural to me that the US elections are a bit more interesting.
As you stated yourself, you really don't care all that much about other nations, unless you actually live there.
So, not much point in discussions on other countries when the participants really only care about the US, no?

This election was very disapointing to me because I knew at 7:15 PST that our votes were still sitting in a little metal locked box in the Small Fire Station that we go to vote in here in the Boonies and that Obama had already won the election..

Basically the wife and I never mattered...

Originally Posted by Birnando

On a US centric board like SRP, it would seem natural to me that the US elections are a bit more interesting.
As you stated yourself, you really don't care all that much about other nations, unless you actually live there.
So, not much point in discussions on other countries when the participants really only care about the US, no?

Guess you guys should start more threads


BTW Birnando I saw the the Progress Party that is popular as being anti-immigration lost about 6 percentage points in the last cycle... How is that going to effect the laws in the next 3 years ????

Also doesn't that pretty much make it a 2 party system for Norway between the Labour Party and the Conservative Party ??

Originally Posted by gssixgun

This election was very disapointing to me because I knew at 7:15 PST that our votes were still sitting in a little metal locked box in the Small Fire Station that we go to vote in here in the Boonies and that Obama had already won the election..

Basically the wife and I never mattered...

Probably better that way, i dont think you would want the decisive vote in this election and to carry that weight on your shoulders for 4 long years.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Ross Perot was the last time there was even a shot at a 3rd party candidate (in my voting life time)

Unfortunately, third parties will never have a chance in America unless something changes drastically. I can only think of three third party candidates that ever even had the slightest impact on an election. Ross Perot, Teddy Roosevelt and William Jennings Bryant.

Unit, your mom is probably an Obama voter.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Unfortunately, third parties will never have a chance in America unless something changes drastically. I can only think of three third party candidates that ever even had the slightest impact on an election. Ross Perot, Teddy Roosevelt and William Jennings Bryant.

Dude yer Old I only was around for Perot

Until the republican party stops making abortion and gay marriage major issues in their platform, they don't have a chance to win a presidential election, IMO.
Stick to the economy, small government, and individual rights (basically, be more libertarian) and they win in a landslide.