Thread: Separation of Church and...

Sure they are.

Originally Posted by maddafinga

Sure they are.

Please explain why they are.

A funny truth about ANY higher power...

With faith comes proof, with proof comes the loss of faith...

You have to mull that over a bit


You guys are arguing semantics from 200 years ago, to invoke "God" in a document gave it the power of law back then... It really has no more or no less meaning then the words now of something like "By the power vested in me by the Great State of Idaho"

Well, I think knowing what people actually meant when they wrote something back in the days is a really good place to start. The thing that justice Scalia has championed as originalism.

I don't have to agree with it, (I don't simply buy argumentum ad verecundiam), but that's the one meaning which is immutable.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

A funny truth about ANY higher power...

With faith comes proof, with proof comes the loss of faith...

You have to mull that over a bit

I think Glen is spot-on in his statement - it really IS that simple.

As long as relgion has been around people have been doing terrible thing to others in the name of that relgion.

With that said some truly good things have come out of relgion. Like a code of self conduct.

Faith is never proof of anything but rather indicates the lack of proof. Having faith neither proves nor disproves the validity of what you have faith in. Faith can never be successfully argued except when preaching to the already converted. That is where it belongs, in a place of worship of your choice not stuffed down peoples throats by any government.

Bob

I had faith in a girlfriend once...

I had a girlfriend named Faith once. Not really but it sounded good.

Bob

Originally Posted by earcutter

I had faith in a girlfriend once...

And I bet you learned from that mistake!